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I'm not sure of the history behind this meeting, but NATO

Posted on: August 13, 2025 at 18:28:34 CT
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can certainly set up a bilateral meeting with Putin if they like. It does sound like Putin will not sit down with Zelensky, however.

The US can't set the terms of any truce, though they could act as a mediator or middle man, or whatever, to help parties that are at loggerheads understand each other & hopefully come to some agreement.

All the US can do is discuss/negotiate its own role in this conflict going forward. Continuing to pour billions of dollars into Ukraine in what is clearly a losing cause would be absolutely absurd. Not as absurd as sending US troops in to engage directly in a war with Russia, but still quite absurd in its own right.

It might prolong the war, resulting in untold additional tens of thousands of deaths of Ukrainians & Russians & mercenaries, and in untold additional suffering, and untold billions in destroyed infrastructure in Ukraine... but would the delay of the inevitable defeat of Ukraine by several months be worth that horrendous cost?

If you were president, or king, and could control US policy, what would you do in this situation?
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     Ukraine’s Forces Crushed – The Final Push Begins | - JeffB MU - 8/13 19:25:18
     Given that Ukraine has, rationally, said they - GA Tiger MU - 8/13 18:50:47
          That's pretty much the point that Mearsheimer is making. - JeffB MU - 8/13 19:00:56
          Not a US problem. Ukraine can fight by themselves - TigerMatt STL - 8/13 18:52:58
               Zelensky is only in power because he declared martial law. - JeffB MU - 8/13 18:56:03
     NATO has no seat at the table....WTF...you have fallen under - tigertix MU - 8/13 17:49:04
          I'm not sure of the history behind this meeting, but NATO - JeffB MU - 8/13 18:28:34
               "Understand" each other. THEY UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER PERFEC(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 8/13 18:54:03
                    Mearscheimer was saying that it appears that Trump & NATO - JeffB MU - 8/13 19:08:25
     Russia knows history - Spanky KU - 8/13 17:47:55
          Exactly. This is an off ramp for all parties involved and - JeffB MU - 8/13 18:31:01




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