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Ukraine & NATO are demanding a cease fire before any

Posted on: August 13, 2025 at 17:39:47 CT
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agreement can be made with Russia. Russia has said that isn't going to happen. Unless their demands, which have been repeated over and over for months are met, there will be no cease fire... the war will be settled on the battlefield.

I think the most rational US position would be for Trump to listen attentatively to Putin & his delegation, while stating Ukraine & NATO'S position as accurately and fairly as he can. It sounds like that would leave things in an intractable stalemate for now.

If so, he should accurately relay Putin's response to Ukraine & NATO & let them know that if they refuse the Russian demands that the US will respectfully pull out of the conflict and hand the reins over to Ukraine & Europe to settle with Russia as they see fit, whether on the battlefield or at the negotiating table, either now or at some point in the future.

That is essentially the position of John Mearsheimer, Col Douglass MacGregor & Col Daniel Davis and is what makes the most sense from my point of view.


John Mearsheimer: PUTIN WILL NOT LOSE at Alaska Summit
https://youtu.be/h3ddS2zvidw?t=718
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Ukraine & NATO are demanding a cease fire before any - JeffB MU - 8/13 17:39:47
     Ukraine’s Forces Crushed – The Final Push Begins | - JeffB MU - 8/13 19:25:18
     Given that Ukraine has, rationally, said they - GA Tiger MU - 8/13 18:50:47
          That's pretty much the point that Mearsheimer is making. - JeffB MU - 8/13 19:00:56
          Not a US problem. Ukraine can fight by themselves - TigerMatt STL - 8/13 18:52:58
               Zelensky is only in power because he declared martial law. - JeffB MU - 8/13 18:56:03
     NATO has no seat at the table....WTF...you have fallen under - tigertix MU - 8/13 17:49:04
          I'm not sure of the history behind this meeting, but NATO - JeffB MU - 8/13 18:28:34
               "Understand" each other. THEY UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER PERFEC(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 8/13 18:54:03
                    Mearscheimer was saying that it appears that Trump & NATO - JeffB MU - 8/13 19:08:25
     Russia knows history - Spanky KU - 8/13 17:47:55
          Exactly. This is an off ramp for all parties involved and - JeffB MU - 8/13 18:31:01




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