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I think that all human beings are persons, but that does not

Posted on: May 29, 2025 at 21:29:48 CT
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mean that disconnecting life support from someone is always wrong.

That would be most obvious in the case of someone who died. At that point he or she would be a dead person, but continuing life support would be futile.

If keeping a living person alive because of life support, but if they are on the verge of death and they have no chance of recovery and doing so would be a huge burden on the family, then it could be permissible to stop or to never start extraordinary measures to keep them alive.

It would never be permissible to intentionally kill someone, however. It would also not be permissible to stop feeding them or to stop providing them with water/hydration. Those are not extraordinary measures.
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Question: - Spanky KU - 5/29 19:58:07
     no thank you - Ferg MU - 5/29 20:49:32
     Make removing bodies from life support illegal?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 20:36:21
          That is a non sequitur... or spell out what your reasoning - JeffB MU - 5/29 20:44:17
               RE: That is a non sequitur... or spell out what your reasoning - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 20:51:38
                    Ben Carson's quote was with respect to abortion. Some people - JeffB MU - 5/29 21:32:21
                         You’re confusing the argument. What is a person? (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 21:33:26
                              I said in my earlier post, I think every human being is a - JeffB MU - 5/29 21:41:45
                                   That doesn’t define what a person is. Catholicism teaches - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 21:46:29
                                        RE: That doesn’t define what a person is. Catholicism teaches - THEGROVE68 MU - 5/30 05:36:16
                                        Of course, and so are angels... moral agents. - JeffB MU - 5/29 22:04:49
                                             Define person. You are dancing around it. We’ve established - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 22:12:33
                    Speaking only for myself, I would say yes and no if the - MUTGR MU - 5/29 21:19:40
                         So if a family member decides to remove a body incapable of - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 21:28:48
                              Since you are the answer guy, maybe you need to state - MUTGR MU - 5/29 21:54:02
                                   That’s the problem isn’t it? Generally a person is an - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 22:00:34
                                        RE: That’s the problem isn’t it? Generally a person is an - MUTGR MU - 5/29 22:07:49
                                             That has absolutely nothing to do with what a person is.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 22:13:22
                                                  So you are advocating that a living person who has no - MUTGR MU - 5/29 22:22:01
                                                       What is a person? God is three persons, angels are persons. - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 22:26:14
          Does anyone say those people are not human?(nm) - Spanky KU - 5/29 20:41:16
               If there is a body in a hospital bed, incapable of ever - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 20:50:48
                    RE: If there is a body in a hospital bed, incapable of ever - THEGROVE68 MU - 5/30 05:41:12
                    I think that all human beings are persons, but that does not - JeffB MU - 5/29 21:29:48
                         So how do you define a person? (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 21:32:52
                              RE: So how do you define a person? (nm) - THEGROVE68 MU - 5/30 05:45:47
                              ^^still can’t define fascism^^ - Spanky KU - 5/29 22:02:24
                                   Strawman.. can’t stick to the topic shows you can’t defend - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 22:35:09
                                        ^^Dumb@$$^^ - Spanky KU - 5/29 22:55:19
                                             You don’t grasp the difference between a fascist and fascism - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 23:03:46
                    Has anyone argued that someone on life support isn’t a - Spanky KU - 5/29 21:02:31
                         Is a brain dead body incapable of conscious thought a person - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 21:03:49
                              RE: Is a brain dead body incapable of conscious thought a person - THEGROVE68 MU - 5/30 05:53:47
                              Changing your scenario? - Spanky KU - 5/29 21:09:16
                                   I didn’t change my scenario. I said body, not person.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 21:12:46
                                        What is a body?(nm) - Spanky KU - 5/29 21:19:11
                                             the physical structure of a person or an animal, including - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 21:27:36
                                                  Is the brain an organ?(nm) - Spanky KU - 5/29 22:01:14
                                                       Sure. And it can be damaged in a way it still exists but is - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 22:19:25
                                                            Keep going…. - Spanky KU - 5/29 22:56:58
                                                                 Still alive. Not dead. No ability for consciousness. - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 23:02:50
                                   But the body isn’t dead. It is alive receiving what it needs - TigerMatt STL - 5/29 21:11:09
                                        RE: But the body isn’t dead. It is alive receiving what it needs - THEGROVE68 MU - 5/30 05:55:16




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