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Conviction is not necessary or relevant

Posted on: August 21, 2023 at 09:31:03 CT
FIJItiger MU
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‘ The disqualification clause operates independently of any such criminal proceedings and, indeed, also independently of impeachment proceedings and of congressional legislation. The clause was designed to operate directly and immediately upon those who betray their oaths to the Constitution, whether by taking up arms to overturn our government or by waging war on our government by attempting to overturn a presidential election through a bloodless coup.’

The conviction determine if he goes to prison. He is already ineligible to be president.
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Not sure, didn't Christie say he won't vote for Trump, but - hokie VT - 8/21 08:45:37
     He already pledged his support - El-ahrairah UGA - 8/21 09:48:15
     14th amendment prevents Trump from being on the ballot - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 08:47:50
          I like Burgum but he won’t criticize Trump in the way - MoTx MU - 8/21 11:53:00
          Wrong. - MIZDDS MU - 8/21 11:02:01
               Sorry. Don't think any serious people take viewpoints like - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 11:11:12
          At this point...undoubtedly wrong. If Trump has - GA Tiger MU - 8/21 09:27:52
               Conviction is not necessary or relevant - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:31:03
                    RE: Conviction is not necessary or relevant - BH O'bonga MU - 8/21 09:46:49
                         I think I'll align with the position of the - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:49:55
                              You confirmed your ignorance when you cited The Atlantic as - BH O'bonga MU - 8/21 10:34:40
                                   Right, I understood your concern the first time - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 10:46:25
                                        RE: Right, I understood your concern the first time - KC rules MU - 8/21 11:30:39
                                             He obviously should end up in jail, but it won't - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 11:35:36
                              Constitutional scholars, plural? Or just one or two that are - hokie VT - 8/21 10:17:51
                                   All. It isn't ambiguous or complicated. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 10:20:28
                                        Have you instructed them on the const? If YOU SAY - hokie VT - 8/21 10:24:37
                                             I have not. It will be the responsibility of each - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 10:33:03
                    Conviction is absolutely necessary. - Spanky KU - 8/21 09:39:47
                         To be sent to jail yes - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:43:16
                              Who was Wade Hampton III? - Spanky KU - 8/21 09:58:25
                              Who was "Fighting Joe" Wheeler? - Spanky KU - 8/21 09:52:38
                                   Yes, Congress can override with a 2/3rds majority - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:58:55
                                        Did Congress override to allow Hampton and Wheeler - Spanky KU - 8/21 10:28:30
          So fudgy and the Atlantic mag have judged him guilty. I gues - hokie VT - 8/21 09:15:30
               Here, use this as your source then - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:27:28
               The indictments and trials are to decide if he goes to jail - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:24:42
               if only you weren't such a coward - ashtray UF - 8/21 09:17:16
          Half the stuff he is charged with happened 3 to 7 years ago. - shorty MU - 8/21 09:01:28
               Well they tried to impeach him under the normal - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:04:13
                    How did Trump obstruct it? - Sal CMSU - 8/21 09:08:37
          RE: 14th amendment: No, and the Atlantic isn't a reliable - BH O'bonga MU - 8/21 09:00:11
               RE: 14th amendment: No, and the Atlantic isn't a reliable - KC rules MU - 8/21 09:52:57
               How about the constitution then? - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:02:01
                    RE: How about the constitution then? - BH O'bonga MU - 8/21 09:43:25
                         Just to clarify, this is not Trump's tigerboard handle (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:47:24
                    Any state or local government can just refuse to put him on - Rabbit Test MU - 8/21 09:10:28
                         RE: Any state or local government can just refuse to put him on - BH O'bonga MU - 8/21 09:43:53
                         True. Although not can, should and will (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:21:09
                         lol sounds like an attack on democracy to me (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/21 09:14:31
                              Yes, that is what led to him being in this situation (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:21:26
                                   He hasn't attacked democracy - Sal CMSU - 8/21 09:30:56
          No it doesn't (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/21 08:57:09
          No. It doesn’t. - Spanky KU - 8/21 08:52:45
               RE: No. It doesn’t. - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 08:59:10
                    You don’t read very goodly do you - Spanky KU - 8/21 09:33:36
                         RE: You don’t read very goodly do you - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:35:17
                              Nowhere in the 14th amendment does it say the mere - Spanky KU - 8/21 09:41:27
                                   RE: Nowhere in the 14th amendment does it say the mere - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:46:20
                                        The 14th des not override the Due Process guranteed - Spanky KU - 8/21 10:33:15
                    Which charges will fit under that definition (nm) - tman MU - 8/21 09:18:04
                         Well that is why I linked the article originally - FIJItiger MU - 8/21 09:20:34
                              You are an idiot(nm) - tman MU - 8/21 10:14:37




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