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You still don't understand his nuanced argument...

Posted on: November 25, 2022 at 12:01:28 CT
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What is factual is determined by truth.

But the determination (assessment) of what is factual by a politically biased human being is often dependent on their political views.

Either you don't understand the point, or you're being intellectually dishonest by playing with the semantics of determined/determination in different contexts.
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My Thanksgiving conversation with a liberal. He's about - hokie VT - 11/25 09:54:08
     Very liberal and very intelligent do not go together - OntheMark MU - 11/25 21:59:22
     No what is factual is not dependent on the ideology of - JG MU - 11/25 12:13:50
     You said that what is factual is reliant on ideology? - raskolnikov MU - 11/25 11:23:57
          no, he said the interpretation & determination of what is - zounami MU - 11/25 11:25:49
               Yes he said that many partisans refuse to accept facts - JG MU - 11/25 12:16:03
               And what is factual is NOT determined by ideology - raskolnikov MU - 11/25 11:41:12
                    Here's a simple example for you - BigDave MU - 11/25 12:20:28
                         That's a good example of how interpretation gets - KC rules MU - 11/26 11:10:19
                         No. Fact is not dependent on perspective. that was a lot of - raskolnikov MU - 11/25 13:41:18
                              Nonsense - BigDave MU - 11/25 14:08:29
                                   You can dispute what is a fact or not - JG MU - 11/25 14:11:55
                         No you may misinterpret the facts due to your own - JG MU - 11/25 12:35:19
                              Come on, you are a scientist - BigDave MU - 11/25 12:50:47
                                   observations and facts are not exactly the same thing - JG MU - 11/25 14:09:55
                    What many BELIEVE to be a factual is based on ideology. Is - hokie VT - 11/25 11:53:57
                         there have always been multiple genders - ashtray UF - 11/25 12:44:37
                         You want to get into that ? - raskolnikov MU - 11/25 12:13:07
                    Then you made a straw man argument, refuting a point - zounami MU - 11/25 11:42:56
                         Here Dipsht - Just what I said - raskolnikov MU - 11/25 11:53:09
                              You still don't understand his nuanced argument... - zounami MU - 11/25 12:01:28
                                   His statement was incorrect. What he wanted to say - raskolnikov MU - 11/25 12:17:20
                                   Even if you convinced him, he wouldn't admit it. Nm - hokie VT - 11/25 12:04:00
                                        I don't think he's capable of understanding it. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/25 12:04:38
     RE: My Thanksgiving conversation with a liberal. He's about - TigerJW MU - 11/25 11:23:42
          Very woke, hates trump, paints the toenails of 5 yo - hokie VT - 11/25 11:35:19
               Better question: What makes you think he's smart?... - zounami MU - 11/25 11:42:12
                    He is very well educated, very well spoken thinks logically - hokie VT - 11/25 11:58:49
                         educated & intelligent are two different things.... - zounami MU - 11/25 12:03:40
     i.e., another liberal is woefully uninformed on the issues (nm) - zounami MU - 11/25 11:13:11
     Good try, but uninformed people are not intelligent like - tigertix MU - 11/25 11:10:30
          Disagree. Brilliant people can be ignorant, and morons can - hokie VT - 11/25 11:37:03
               Brilliant people think for themselves. This guy is a sheep - zounami MU - 11/25 11:45:11
     RE: My Thanksgiving conversation with a liberal. He's about - MUTGR STL - 11/25 10:56:21
          I mentioned the CBS acknowledgment. He had heard of it - hokie VT - 11/25 10:59:29
     'Very Liberal. Very Intelligent.' - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/25 10:52:11
          I've never met a liberal who's smarter than I am. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/25 11:18:47
               Regardless of polical leanings, there are very few - tigerdb MU - 11/25 11:46:48
                    says the guy who can't spell "political" (nm) - zounami MU - 11/25 11:49:57
               ...and that includes classical & neoliberals (nm) - zounami MU - 11/25 11:27:54
     when I was in my thirties - fatrat MU - 11/25 10:37:34
     Oh dear 🤦‍♂️(nm) - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/25 10:36:10
          That's all you have? Oh, it's you. Never mind. Nm - hokie VT - 11/25 10:53:38
     I think there are many millions in his peer group which - GA Tiger MU - 11/25 10:33:23
          Like most very well educated liberals, there was an air - hokie VT - 11/25 10:48:34
               than me.(nm) - TrumpToRushmore MU - 11/25 10:53:52
                    I'm sure you're right but your intelligence didn't come up. - hokie VT - 11/25 10:57:21
     When Hunter gets subpoenaed to testify and refuses... - TigerJW MU - 11/25 10:31:44
     Why would anyone - Ferg MU - 11/25 10:17:06
          That's cuz you are a 'normal'...these - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/25 10:41:11
               who was "whining" in the OP? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/25 11:14:32
               be careful - Ferg MU - 11/25 10:45:31
                    who broke you? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/25 11:14:50
                    That's not true - Wildcat KSU - 11/25 10:46:52
          Looks like Hunter Biden was brought up as an - ummmm MU - 11/25 10:37:11
          Politics is more interesting, and critical, than all that.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 11/25 10:34:46
          Everyone loves to hear about your kids (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/25 10:29:19
          Why does a squirrel bury his nuts in so many different - Toger STL - 11/25 10:29:00
          why would anyone talk about golf at Thanksgiving dinner? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/25 10:28:50
          You ask on a political chat board, why anyone would - hokie VT - 11/25 10:21:31
     What happened when he asked you what degrees you have - hefeweizen MU - 11/25 10:15:50
          It didn't come up, but I would have proudly stated that I - hokie VT - 11/25 10:35:00
     Did he kill himself then? - tigerdb MU - 11/25 10:12:47
          ^^^Sounds like he might vote for democrats. Just a WAG.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 11/25 10:35:56
          Especially a retard that gets all of his info from kook - hefeweizen MU - 11/25 10:16:53
               That's no doubt what the "liberal" assumed in this case... - zounami MU - 11/25 11:21:27
                    The lib was not aware that Twitter censored the NY post. Nm - hokie VT - 11/25 11:41:29
                         Exactly. That's a perfect example. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/25 11:44:19
                    RE: That's no doubt what the "liberal" assumed in this case... - TigerJW MU - 11/25 11:24:27
                         hokie? (nm) - zounami MU - 11/25 11:29:11
          he apparently was involved actively in the discussion (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/25 10:16:00
               I think Debbie's question is based on the surprise that - hokie VT - 11/25 10:23:37
                    so will you be following his example? - ashtray UF - 11/25 10:46:58
                         He's apparently mature in real life too (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/25 11:15:24
                              You and ashtray Ignore the post to bash the poster. You - hokie VT - 11/25 12:02:07
                                   how did I bash you? I was providing constructive criticsm - ashtray UF - 11/25 12:36:56
                    why is he worried about it if the other person was engaged - 90Tiger STL - 11/25 10:29:56
                         Did I say anything about being engaged or interested, teetee - tigerdb MU - 11/25 10:36:39
                              Apparently the person he was speaking with didn't mind, so - 90Tiger STL - 11/25 11:16:09
                                   apparently, according to hokey. - tigerdb MU - 11/25 11:35:48
                                        WTF makes you think I'd bring it up? Why are you being so - 90Tiger STL - 11/25 11:36:55
                                             WTF makes you think some intelligent 35 y.o. lib was - tigerdb MU - 11/25 11:44:13
                                                  lol, you poor snowflake (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/25 12:01:19
                                                       Shut up puss(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/25 12:10:13
                                                            RE: Shut up puss(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/25 12:11:16
          Unusual, certainly. But I decided to indulge him. Nm - hokie VT - 11/25 10:15:01
     and then everyone clapped and patted your back(nm) - gmmm98 MU - 11/25 09:57:22
          You wouldn't understand. Only intelligent Libs can - hokie VT - 11/25 10:05:06




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