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We might be arguing past each other

Posted on: May 4, 2022 at 14:14:50 CT

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a human sperm cell is a haploid cell that is genetically unique, but without the combination with a human egg cell it is not a unique individual human.

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Some old men on the SC shouldn't be able to decide - Sal CMSU - 5/4 12:40:36

and who stands up for those who can't defend themselves - fatrat MU - 5/4 13:42:42

those fetuses won't be self-sufficient for quite some time - gmmm98 MU

- 5/4 13:50:57

if self-sufficient is your threshold - Sal CMSU - 5/4 14:01:06

nm - Sal CMSU - 5/4 14:10:29

you don't know what either of us is talking about - gmmm98 MU

- 5/4 14:06:27

lol looks like he absolutely does - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/4 14:25:57

who are you? - gmmm98 MU

- 5/4 14:37:13

lol yeah, run along now idiot(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/4 14:39:58

Why bring it up as an argument - Sal CMSU - 5/4 14:12:08

i'm not arguing? - gmmm98 MU

- 5/4 14:18:00

You sure?(nm) - Panthera MU - 5/4 15:00:07

You clearly are (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/4 14:18:50

They won't be self-sufficient for quite some time after they - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 13:52:58

yes - gmmm98 MU

- 5/4 14:00:09

What about lesbians? If we are going to play that game - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 12:51:17

Good point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 12:55:06

Lesbians can get pregnant too (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:02:57

But they only do if they are looking to have a child - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 13:04:44

This is when liberals tell you all about rape - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:08:23

If you are an adult and it does not affect anyone else then - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 13:16:05

How would you have no opinion on something?(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/4 13:28:08

Do you seriously have an opinion on every single topic? - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 13:30:19

My opinion on that is that it doesn't impact my life one - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:36:53

That something impacts you or not is factual, not an opinion - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 13:41:39

I have no idea if it will or will not impact my life. It's - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 14:04:00

That "human life" is a part of the woman's body. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:22:02

I would suggest that killing another human is also an - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 13:31:50

Again, I agree with your first sentence. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:37:39

What is a fetus if not a human life? - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 13:44:23

It is clearly living, just like a sperm is clearly living. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:50:14

a living cell does not necessarily equate to a lifeform - cnk ATL - 5/4 13:53:27

When it can live without a host body. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:56:02

I would argue that it is still a unique individual before - cnk ATL - 5/4 14:02:59

Sperm are cells that carry DNA from the father. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 14:07:02

We might be arguing past each other - cnk ATL - 5/4 14:14:50

So if you reach in 5 seconds before it is born - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 13:57:48

5 seconds before it's born it is able to live just - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 14:02:02

It isn't breathing its own air - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 14:24:07

Did you completely miss the subject of the post? (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 14:29:42

In the birth canal its not breathing its own air - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 14:45:41

[MacGrantt joke](nm) - cnk ATL - 5/4 14:28:20

You frame that well - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 13:12:22

The life argument is a difficult one to make because the - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 13:28:15

When a fetus is no longer a parasite and attached - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:34:27

Life and human life are totally different things - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 13:40:20

A fetus cannot be a human life unless it - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:42:35

You discussed a sperm - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 13:43:19

I took it outside your definition of human life. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:46:12

Is a sperm human life? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 13:48:47

A sperm is living and it becomes a human life. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:51:12

That is not what I asked - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 13:55:13

what about jeff goldblum's sperm? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 5/4 13:51:56

I'll leave you to your fantasies - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 13:55:39

I try not to think about others' sperm - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:54:07

A three month old baby is just as parasitic as that fetus. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 13:37:12

"Just as parasitic" - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:44:50

And without another being to care for it, it dies.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 13:46:42

You don't understand what "parasitic" means, clearly (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:52:17

that doesn't make it parasitic, stick to physics - SwampTiger MU - 5/4 13:50:42

Are you sure? - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 13:58:01

so she didn't live in or on her mother (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 5/4 14:05:07

"While she never lived on one of us she was never more than - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:59:58

So, it's non-viable - Mormad MU - 5/4 13:41:43

If a mother refused to feed and care for the infant, anyone - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:40:17

The purpose of our legislative system - meatiger MU - 5/4 13:31:33

If you or your family are in that situation, I agree. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:17:53

Generally agree - meatiger MU - 5/4 13:26:25

You sure got quiet - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 14:46:42

You are really stumped by that? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 13:42:32

I don't have a moral compass that says it is OK to kill a - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 13:24:49

Again, nor do I. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:28:29

he's an admitted troll (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 5/4 13:47:15

If by troll you mean genius - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 13:49:24

Why do you accuse him off bad faith? There are many people - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/4 13:35:08

That's not what I took issue with. (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 13:36:08

Don't look for consistency from the left - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/4 12:47:37

Women want men's reproductive rights to end at conception. - TigerMatt STL - 5/4 12:44:32