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Government is the ultimate protector of itself

Posted on: March 2, 2021 at 14:38:40 CT
meatiger MU
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Yes, once in a while, the SC intervenes, but by and large, it does not. The best recent example is when they the approval of the ACA. They also punt many times by usage of "lack of standing".

But the most eye opening is all of the immunity government agents are given to tear down citizen rights because of various interpretations of probable cause, or a different use of force standard than a private citizen. And if you attack a government agent, not only can they use deadly force upon you, they can also charge you with extra crimes.

On top of that, the police, prosecutor, and judge all get paid by the government.
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A question for the Constitution supporters - pickle MU - 3/2 14:01:33
     I'm a little over my skis here - DC Jayhawk KU - 3/2 15:41:17
     From the man who believes in nothing, so why bother? - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/2 15:04:56
          I believe in coyotes and time as an abstract - pickle MU - 3/2 15:35:53
          pickle isn't a nihilist(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 15:11:24
     Everything that has been ruled unconstitutional by the SC - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/2 14:05:14
          Where is this presumption of constitutionality? - ummmm MU - 3/2 14:52:40
               RE: Where is this presumption of constitutionality? - MOCO SON MU - 3/2 15:24:37
                    Now you are catching on(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 15:30:03
          RE: Everything that has been ruled unconstitutional by the SC - ashtray UF - 3/2 14:15:13
               so..the last Trump impeachment - meatiger MU - 3/2 14:27:30
                    It is assumed to be. But if a group of senators can decide - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/2 14:43:50
                         You make people go retarded - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 16:03:02
                              no, he's just full of shyt - ashtray UF - 3/2 16:06:50
                         I hope you teach first graders - meatiger MU - 3/2 14:51:33
                              Can you imagine how mad he gets when questioned by - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:52:31
                                   he probably turns of Zoom - meatiger MU - 3/2 14:55:07
                                   it's sad that he's educating kids in the first place - ashtray UF - 3/2 14:54:29
                         not if the Supreme Court hasn't ruled on it - ashtray UF - 3/2 14:49:44
                         Oh my. Lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:44:29
               You do realize what the term 'assumed constitutional' - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/2 14:25:11
                    Dude. You just got owned, resold, and rented all in one - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:32:37
                    then why did you call things unconstituional in those - ashtray UF - 3/2 14:26:26
               hahahahahahahahahaahaha (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/2 14:23:51
               ouch (nm) - pickle MU - 3/2 14:16:40
               Oh damn. Poor DH. Lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:16:09
                    what he meant was "Everything I disagree with is - ashtray UF - 3/2 14:17:01
          You didn’t read the post (nm) - pickle MU - 3/2 14:12:44
               Perhaps. Depends on who says it's unconstitutional, does - SparkyStalcup MU - 3/2 14:16:20
                    And lets be honest - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 14:18:02
                         IMHO, yes, but your mileage may vary. SCOTUS is the - SparkyStalcup MU - 3/2 14:21:46
                              Obviously that’s not true (nm) - pickle MU - 3/2 15:43:56
                              Of course - that is indeed true - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 14:23:57
                              I'm guessing you're not a John Marshall fan. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 3/2 14:22:47
                         i suggest you read the Constitution - pickle MU - 3/2 14:19:33
                         like in 1876? (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/2 14:18:34
          Why? Why not assume they are unconstitutional until the - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:07:48
               That is highly impractical as it would force every law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 14:16:10
                    So just for convenience,unconstitutional laws are allowed to - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:19:53
                         There are responsibilities and authorities laid out for - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 14:23:23
                              That still doesn't answer my question (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:28:38
                                   Well then, yes. Unless something is so eggregious - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 14:36:35
                                        But why? If something is unconstitutional why would anyone - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:42:27
                                             Because that is not always a clear delineation - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 14:51:36
                                                  Why would anyone assume that?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:53:57
                                                       because politicians are virtuous? (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/2 14:55:02
                                                            Well, only ones with the right letter beside their name(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:57:49
                                                                 Do 4Tigs and DH ever think before they post?(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/2 15:02:27
                                                                      Thinking outside the collective is a very difficult task. It - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 15:05:15
                                                                           Same - meatiger MU - 3/2 15:07:12
                                                  LOL(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/2 14:52:03
                              Ah yes, remedy a renegade congress through the - kmawv8 MU - 3/2 14:28:23
                                   Government is the ultimate protector of itself - meatiger MU - 3/2 14:38:40
                                   And we can vote out a renegade congress and have the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/2 14:38:18
                                        How so? - meatiger MU - 3/2 14:41:47
                                        so what's the use of the supreme court's judicial review? - ashtray UF - 3/2 14:41:29
                                   sounds legit (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/2 14:29:46
               Does the SC rule on every law passed? Is this a serious - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/2 14:10:41
                    You didn't answer my question (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:11:21
                         and you didn't answer mine.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/2 14:11:55
                              lol DH (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 3/2 14:45:27
                              Answer mine first and then I will address yours(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/2 14:12:24




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