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if a person were about to stab / shoot / otherwise

Posted on: December 18, 2020 at 17:58:43 CT
90Tiger STL
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attempt to murder the person next to you, do you have the right to use lethal force to prevent it?

If so, why do you not think you should use lethal force against a doctor about to perform an abortion, or with one scheduled for next Tuesday?

Are they not "the same"?
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It's amazing how the pickletopians avoided - Spanky KU - 12/18 16:43:16
     I don’t recall seeing that question - pickle MU - 12/18 17:28:59
          Nope..dance away again. - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:33:16
               You’re suffering short-term memory loss - pickle MU - 12/18 17:41:27
                    And YOU forget you aknowledged a definition of CRIME?? - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:07:04
                         lol what? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/18 18:08:48
                              Does abortion meet YOUR definition of a crime?(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:18:41
                                   no, no, no...you’re changing the subject - pickle MU - 12/18 18:38:51
                                        Dance! Dance! Dance!(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/18 21:10:01
                                        Even so.. abortion is not a crime under the definition he - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 18:41:39
                                             Pickles definition? - Spanky KU - 12/18 19:04:49
                                                  Abortion is not a crime under your definition.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 19:06:09
                                                       Correct...SHOULD it be a crime? Or should a mother - Spanky KU - 12/18 20:56:04
                                                            It is a crime to me. It is just not illegal. Should it be - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 21:56:53
                                                                 That is not logic. The fetus is not harming the mother - Spanky KU - 12/18 22:41:14
                                                                      Actually it does damage the mother's body. There - TigerMatt KC - 12/18 22:44:07
                         No.. it does not require government.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 18:07:59
                              How does one have a crime without some form of gummint(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:11:02
                                   Definition of crime. - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 18:13:22
                                        90Tigs disagreed.(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:15:06
                                             Read it again - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 18:19:37
                                                  he's too ****ing stupid to even converse with (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 18:28:18
                                                       Try answering the question instead of dodging like a pickle - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:33:52
                                                            I'll answer it for myself. Yes I believe abortion meets - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 18:39:35
                                                                 yep, agreed. now spanky will go on to claim we - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 18:45:55
                                                  he said crime requires gummint(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:21:27
                                                       No. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 18:22:57
                                   90Tigs disagrees with you - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:11:51
                                        lol, no (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 18:28:32
                    nope, he's flat out fvcking stupid (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:44:26
               no, you never asked that question (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:40:50
          he doesn't know that he changed questions (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:32:06
               Do we need gummint for something to be a crime?(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:33:52
                    remember this? - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:40:32
                    you asked about legalization, sport - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:39:59
                         That which is legal is not a crime(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:48:10
                              RE: That which is legal is not a crime(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:55:32
                              So gasing Jews was not a crime.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 17:50:40
                              wow, you're stupid as fck (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/18 17:49:11
                                   i've been saying exactly that. He's fundamentally - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:56:00
                                        I think he is just brainwashed into an ideal that he cannot - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 17:57:43
                                        I don't know if there's any intellect there at all (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/18 17:57:05
                    pickle, myself and others have tried countless times - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:39:27
                    You do, and it was your question, your paradigm (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:38:15
                         So if pickle said we need to 'rethink crime' he - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:40:53
                              uh, he's trying to explain that crime isn't - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:43:44
                                   but it requires gummint. - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:45:58
                                        I'm enjoying watching you display ignorance and - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:56:49
                                             Do you agree with his definition of 'crime' (that YOU admit - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:05:29
                                                  lol, i said YOU think crime = legality, not that crime - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 18:29:15
                              again, legal/illegal is your paradigm - pickle MU - 12/18 17:43:41
                                   Learn English.... - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:45:01
                                        RE: Learn English.... - ashtray UF - 12/18 17:48:42
                                             and pickle's definition? - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:13:09
                                        Why do you ignore definitions that show you are wrong? - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 17:48:30
                                             "an action or omission that constitutes an offense that may - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:17:00
                                                  You don't get to ignore definitions that hurt your argument(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 18:23:31
                                                       I went with the PRIMARY definition... not the tsk, tsk tsk - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:33:16
                                                            And you are still wrong.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 18:34:38
                                                                 Not even close, dipstick.(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:54:26
     I haven't seen the argument in awhile but - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/18 16:49:44
          ummmm was the only straightforward answer - Spanky KU - 12/18 16:52:22
     It has been explained countless times.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 16:44:36
          Like this? - Spanky KU - 12/18 16:46:43
               Yes. It is pretty simple. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 17:18:52
                    Some lives matter to libertarians..some don’t - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:24:24
                         So you support forced vaccinations, right?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 17:25:03
                              Yet another very stupid analogy - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:28:28
                                   It isn't. Vaccinations help keep immune system compromised - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 17:29:29
                                        It is... vaccinations do not guarantee life. - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:35:20
                                             Pregnancy does not guarantee life.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 17:40:21
                                                  Nice dodge(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:43:42
                                                       it isn't a dodge - ashtray UF - 12/18 17:49:59
                                                            It is a dodge. An abortion is the premeditated (unnatural) - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:53:30
                                                                 The book of Numbers lays out procedures for a woman to - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 17:56:49
                                                                      and???(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/18 18:22:52
                                                                           Abortion cannot always be wrong if it is part of God's law(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/18 18:26:34
               it's a matter of whether or not you believe in - ashtray UF - 12/18 16:53:42
                    lol yeah that's flimsy as hell - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/18 17:08:33
                         he wants to dance around premeditated killing and - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:11:26
                              So you think a doctor performing an abortion should - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:29:39
                                   I think when abortion is illegal, a doctor performing - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:49:15
                                        if a person were about to stab / shoot / otherwise - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:58:43
                                             c'mon now, 90. You're ruining the sensationalism for him (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/18 18:00:05
                                   My fave - meatiger MU - 12/18 17:34:37
                                        I favor the mother being prosecuted also - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:50:05
                                             RE: I favor the mother being prosecuted also - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 18:00:22
                                        Spanky is arguing that it's "the same" (murdering a - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:36:13
                                             Since i have never once advocated for capital punishment - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:51:27
                                                  That isn't vigilanteism; you're being dishonest. I said - 90Tiger STL - 12/18 17:59:56
                                             I know. (nm) - meatiger MU - 12/18 17:47:46
                    bad analogy...the topic is premeditated killing. - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:04:36
                         why should the woman be forced to continue - ashtray UF - 12/18 17:50:57
                              Natural right to life of the child(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/18 17:52:20
                                   sure, good luck doing that out of the womb (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/18 17:55:33




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