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90 is like you.. An idealist who makes a useful rube.
Posted on: January 18, 2020 at 13:55:19 CT
jonesin
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Who TOLD you man was benevolent?
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90 Tiger, you are a hopeless idealist who thinks man has
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jonesin
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1/18 13:04:52
Proven time and time again
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/18 16:19:09
RE: Proven time and time again
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/18 16:58:23
Ha ha ha ha ha
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/18 17:03:42
RE: Ha ha ha ha ha
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/18 17:10:42
RE: Ha ha ha ha ha
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/18 17:18:01
Good for you
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/18 17:39:35
That is a great idea and by and large that is what we have i
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/18 17:17:13
RE: That is a great idea and by and large that is what we have i
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/18 17:40:32
AGAIN - I prefer children an the hungry to be fed - and I
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/18 17:43:10
It's a big gun, not a benevolent nature, that assures
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jonesin
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1/18 16:35:20
you're just utterly lost (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 17:06:14
Lost on you, yes. nm
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jonesin
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1/18 17:28:11
We got out of Africa, established tribes and traveled across
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/18 16:59:51
What's this "we" shyte? In modern society "we" have many
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jonesin
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1/18 17:26:22
YOU dissed man's benevolent nature in the OP
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/18 17:46:28
I agree. Man's nature hasn't changed at all.
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jonesin
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1/18 18:07:26
humans are quite obviously, generally cooperative and
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 13:46:42
So do parents spend more time teaching their
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/18 14:01:16
Parents are humans. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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1/18 14:57:00
not until they learn about jesus (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:00:04
Your distaste for Christianity is duly noted.
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jonesin
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1/18 15:22:33
remember, it's you who is arguing we are born as
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:33:18
Nope. I was reinforcing my position. And using your distaste
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jonesin
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1/18 15:47:17
lol (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:48:34
we are beasts (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:32:52
pick any religion (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:32:41
4Tigs - so when your kids are bad adults, it's because you
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:45:51
There can be many reasons for that
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/18 14:50:19
human nature is inherently cooperative
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pickle
MU
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1/18 15:03:03
Foolish and wrong. nm
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jonesin
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1/18 15:28:45
i picture a class of pre-schoolers all knife-fighting if
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:10:22
Be serious for a moment;.bullying in school isn't a problem?
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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1/18 17:12:01
it’s an individual problem
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pickle
MU
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1/18 18:58:04
lol, yeah - those are the children not taught christianity.
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 18:54:19
Yup. Lord of the Flies.
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Emoji Man
MSU
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1/18 16:53:09
It's a direct result of people like you and Pickled who
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jonesin
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1/18 15:28:03
lol, my son's an awesome man, you really believe
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:35:11
Then someone else instilled some virtue and morality in him
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jonesin
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1/18 15:49:02
lol, the contortions required to sustain myth-believing. (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:49:55
So you think humans don't grow out of those behaviors
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:59:24
Look at our inner cities with a breakdown of the
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/18 15:01:16
RE: Look at our inner cities with a breakdown of the
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:01:51
I never mentioned religion
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/18 15:02:43
it's implied and it doesn't alter the discussion at all -but
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:03:52
They wouldn't. Short answer.
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jonesin
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1/18 15:30:08
lol - so the only good humans are those taught by
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:34:05
lol, you're now thinking that w/o parents, humans would
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:43:03
Again, not the question at hand(nm)
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/18 14:51:00
...crickets...
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jonesin
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1/18 14:11:26
lol, bro (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:49:30
The fact that some are taught and trained to
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/18 14:16:32
I'm almost speechless that you think humans are only
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:43:49
I never said that
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/18 14:51:39
of course you did and it is (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:59:48
Exactly. I wonder how any semi-educated adult over the
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jonesin
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1/18 14:21:30
so your contention here is that, left without adult interven
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:45:22
The FACT that you would ask this question about human
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jonesin
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1/18 15:15:01
you didn't answer. Try to answer (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:15:31
There is a reason every study shows that children who
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/18 15:00:11
And the reason isn't because humans are born bad and have
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:01:39
Wha?! So their inherent nature is sociopathy?
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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1/18 15:44:53
people become sociopathic if they are abused, unloved
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:49:32
So cooperation is NOT inherent...cooperation is reliant
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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1/18 15:58:57
RE: So cooperation is NOT inherent...cooperation is reliant
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 17:01:37
Yeah, Baltimore was a ****hole in the 70s...wait
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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1/18 17:17:10
are you having a conversation with yourself here abou
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 19:31:19
RE: So cooperation is NOT inherent...cooperation is reliant
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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1/18 17:12:42
no Lou, go have a beer and fear your neighbors (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 19:58:15
lol, no (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 16:52:33
lol, no (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:48:50
You answered your own question, dolt. And confirmed
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jonesin
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1/18 15:17:20
You are foolish if you really believe that.
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jonesin
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1/18 13:58:49
But NOTHING is more foolish than your comment below,
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/18 14:20:07
you've been wrong about the civil war your entire life (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:46:22
Here, learn something. If possible.
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/18 15:10:10
First, what does any of this have to do with being a Liberal
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:14:36
I expect them to be brainwashed and willfully ignorant.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/18 15:46:16
GAT, you ought to know better. The WAR was a way for the
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jonesin
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1/18 14:28:43
You totally proved my comment.
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/18 14:52:10
Who worked those plantations that were bought for pennies
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jonesin
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1/18 15:40:36
Answers to those questions do nothing to prove your
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/18 15:48:37
well, it also wouldn't have been fought if there weren't
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:15:08
Gov't intervenes on the American Dream and ****s
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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1/18 13:21:54
LOL! You too need a history lesson. As well as a little more
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jonesin
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1/18 13:33:20
I have never needed to instruct one person
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/18 14:07:22
So human behavior is inherently bad, until and unless
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:47:08
Not all behavior is bad
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/18 14:53:13
because that's how your 3 year old behaves? LMFAO! (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:00:35
Why is that?
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/18 15:02:02
it largely isn't, 4Tigs. occasional selfishness or grabbing
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 15:09:08
Parents correct and punish that behavior because it is
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ummmm
MU
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1/18 15:58:19
You MFer's are beyond reason. Pathologically indoctrinated.
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jonesin
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1/18 16:19:12
What part of my last post do you disagree with? (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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1/18 16:43:01
So God is inherently bad too?
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glue
MU
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1/18 16:26:14
Ever hear of the Tree of Knowledge? Since you brought
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jonesin
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1/18 16:38:17
every single aspect of your life is evidence of man
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 13:48:07
I would've probably killed a bunch of dudes if not for laws
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Emoji Man
MSU
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1/18 14:05:18
me too. thank goodness my parents trained me to live
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:49:20
That and you prolly don't want to go to prison and get
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Emoji Man
MSU
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1/18 16:23:29
AND IT IS THE LAW AGREED TO BY MEN! NOT NATURE.
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jonesin
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1/18 14:00:20
So, if not for society's laws and your religion, all men are
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:48:50
You should read the article Pickle posted below.
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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1/18 13:40:37
Which one? The one I shot to Hell in three short paragraphs?
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jonesin
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1/18 13:43:30
I have no idea, but if it was the really long one, I
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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1/18 13:45:46
The Mises post about the government leviathan? I read it.
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jonesin
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1/18 13:48:47
WOW, I just looked down the page.
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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1/18 13:52:50
90 is like you.. An idealist who makes a useful rube.
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jonesin
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1/18 13:55:19
do you walk out your door and fight people in the street
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:40:18
Some people do....they tend not to live in the burbs
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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1/18 15:53:09
Most people cooperate because it is mutually beneficial. Yes
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jonesin
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1/18 14:46:54
So your contention is that man is born bad and lives
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:47:49
Straw man, if I may. Man doesn't have to be inherently "bad"
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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1/18 16:10:41
lol, that was complicated (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 17:07:06
It's actually quite simple, and evidenced from time
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Mizzou Lou
KC
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1/18 17:14:40
that isn't a post about anarchy, lol (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 13:49:12
No. It's a post about how our government has been morphed
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jonesin
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1/18 13:53:34
So let's say you're right, at least in your own mind.
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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1/18 13:59:46
I go through the day knowing this to be true. But also
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jonesin
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1/18 14:08:42
Oh, God.
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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1/18 14:11:55
A lotta heartburn(nm)
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glue
MU
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1/18 16:55:33
I don't think he believes any of this nonsense; he's just
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:41:05
No. I absolutely know it. And speaking of "dug in"...
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jonesin
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1/18 14:54:40
I know, right? It would be much more FUN to be free like
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jonesin
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1/18 14:18:06
So if one has an aggressive lust for life
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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1/18 14:24:12
Try a humble one. Nothing more rewarding than that my
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jonesin
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1/18 14:30:24
lol, you think that's what you're doing? (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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1/18 14:41:35
I try. nm
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jonesin
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1/18 14:53:25