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OK, a fair point, but the felony was specifically a

Posted on: December 20, 2019 at 18:05:02 CT
JeffB MU
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'hate crime'.

If it was 5 years for a first offense it would still have been an injustice. As noted elsewhere, had he burned an effigy of Trump or an American flag while publicly proclaiming how much he hated either one there would have been no felony & no hate crime, and probably no arrest, much less conviction and jail time.

Fwiw, he was also given an extra year for the crime of harrassment, hence the 16 year sentence.
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Man gets 16 years for burning rainbow flag. Hate crime... - JeffB MU - 12/20 16:34:23
     It sounds like a troll article/someone looking for a - Freeglider USA - 12/20 18:50:37
          Not as I see it. I wouldn't write it the same way, but I - JeffB MU - 12/20 19:07:46
     That is beyond absurd sentence. This - GA Tiger MU - 12/20 18:28:07
          He should have to pay to replace the stolen flag and - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 18:57:46
     He’s a thief it there is no hate crime for telling people - TigerFan92 MU - 12/20 18:07:26
          RE: He’s a thief it there is no hate crime for telling people - patriot MU - 12/20 19:04:14
          Class D felony hate crime for doing that in Iowa apparently(nm) - JeffB MU - 12/20 18:09:38
               Come get me. More hateful to let them harm themselves (nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 12/20 18:40:14
     Jeff, the good news here is that this clickbait garbage for - 90Tiger STL - 12/20 17:58:17
          Yes, we have very different world views. I disagree, of cour - JeffB MU - 12/20 18:14:29
               by the way, if it isn't a mythology, why does it require - 90Tiger STL - 12/20 18:39:40
                    Your worldview requires every bit as much faith as mine does - JeffB MU - 12/20 18:41:23
                         faith in what, exactly, jeff? the straw man you claimed - 90Tiger STL - 12/20 18:52:13
                              I started a new thread for this discussion: - JeffB MU - 12/20 19:02:30
                                   I would say you miss the point of this issue. - GA Tiger MU - 12/20 19:34:55
                                   more straw man constructs and false dichotomy - 90Tiger STL - 12/20 19:27:02
                                        Faced w/mysteries dark & vast, - raskolnikov MU - 12/20 20:29:21
                                             did you choke on a peanut mid-sentence? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/20 20:44:32
               There are billions of great minds who don't agree with it - 90Tiger STL - 12/20 18:29:42
                    It wasn't an appeal to authority. It was a response to your - JeffB MU - 12/20 18:38:19
                         it was an appeal to authority or numbers. If it isn't - 90Tiger STL - 12/20 18:40:58
     third strike - Ferg STL - 12/20 17:43:28
          Enhancement is discretionary in Missouri. - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/20 18:29:40
          Ok, that accounts for why they convicted him of a hate crime - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:49:21
               he wasn’t convicted of a hate crime - pickle MU - 12/20 21:34:15
                    The news accounts say that he was. What evidence are - JeffB MU - 12/21 12:48:11
               RE: Ok, that accounts for why they convicted him of a hate crime - sarasotatiger MU - 12/20 18:38:48
                    Please expound. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/20 18:40:26
               Hate crimes are dumb - mizzoumurfkc KC - 12/20 17:52:54
                    I agree. I do think there can be aggravating circumstances - JeffB MU - 12/20 18:00:25
                         Agreed. And the same goes for jurisdictions - mizzoumurfkc KC - 12/20 18:10:26
          3rd strike laws are immoral and lazy (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/20 17:45:10
     WTF is USSA tea party news? - mizzoumurfkc KC - 12/20 17:34:07
          No idea who they are. This is your opportunity to fill us in - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:39:57
               RE: No idea who they are. This is your opportunity to fill us in - mizzoumurfkc KC - 12/20 17:51:38
                    OK, a fair point, but the felony was specifically a - JeffB MU - 12/20 18:05:02
     BTW that website tries to do malicious activity - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 17:20:51
          It's not blacklisted, but has outdated software, per a scann - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:31:36
               Except it seemingly randomly fires off a connection to this - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 17:48:55
                    It didn't for me, but thanks for the heads up. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:51:30
                         I can't get it to trigger every time. It is probably from - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 17:53:15
                              It's a WordPress site. They give free software updates, not - JeffB MU - 12/20 18:06:51
     The good thing for my enemies on the left is - tigerfans3 MU - 12/20 16:57:05
     * - pickle MU - 12/20 16:50:35
     Why are you so dishonest? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 16:44:27
          Why are you so stupid? - MIZ45 MU - 12/20 19:55:57
               Or maybe he is just dishonest? (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/21 12:49:30
          Why are you such a wanker?(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/20 16:56:34
          That's a pretty strong accusation. Please show me where - JeffB MU - 12/20 16:47:27
               RE: That's a pretty strong accusation. Please show me where - pickle MU - 12/20 16:51:05
                    Looks to me like you are the dishonest one here pickle. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/20 16:55:31
                         And a wanker (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/20 17:05:30
                              No doubt, but he likes to say that it doesn't hurt anyone. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:06:52
     should have been theft - meatiger MU - 12/20 16:41:33
          don’t put any stock into that ignorant garbage (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 16:50:12
               This is why nobody puts any stock into your posts (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 12/20 19:56:50
               Always so elegant in your discussions. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/20 16:59:17
          What are your views on government financed Drag Queen - JeffB MU - 12/20 16:43:46
               "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 12/20 16:47:54
                    Love they neighbor....just don't get caught. (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/20 16:57:31
                    Like this?... - JeffB MU - 12/20 16:54:50
                         Who cares? Don't like it, don't go.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 17:01:03
                              Why do you care so much to post on here repeatedly? Why not - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:06:10
                                   A drag queen reading a story isn't spreading hate. You are(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 17:11:47
                                        Disagreeing with the narrative that it is a good idea to be - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:39:05
                                             Now the straw man - pickle MU - 12/20 17:50:11
                                                  If you weren't such a coward you could discuss this like a - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:54:22
               is that the only - meatiger MU - 12/20 16:47:22
                    So you don't think there's anything wrong with the governmen - JeffB MU - 12/20 16:49:57
                         i think you’re a gullible idiot (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 16:52:14
                              You are against government spending unless it is evil - JeffB MU - 12/20 16:56:22
                         RE: So you don't think there's anything wrong with the governmen - meatiger MU - 12/20 16:51:35
                              Well, they advertise for it, and host them at libraries all - JeffB MU - 12/20 16:58:04
                                   RE: Well, they advertise for it, and host them at libraries all - meatiger MU - 12/20 17:04:31
                                        You can't stay on topic? A man was imprisoned for a hate - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:08:15
                                             did you read the article - meatiger MU - 12/20 17:14:34
                                                  I read quite a bit, but didn't read to the end. What did he - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:43:06
                                             No he wasn’t. Stop with the dishonesty - pickle MU - 12/20 17:14:25
                                             Dude, you're the one that started talking about drag queens(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 17:11:02
                                                  I was responding to meatiger's original post in response to - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:23:09
                                                       a straight up news story - meatiger MU - 12/20 17:29:53
                                                            Very (nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 17:50:48
                                                       Stop being dishonest. You brought up drag queens(nm) - pickle MU - 12/20 17:27:01
                                                            RE: Stop being dishonest. You brought up drag queens(nm) - meatiger MU - 12/20 17:30:29
                                                                 Yes, it was in the article, and my question was in response - JeffB MU - 12/20 18:18:39
                                                                      RE: Yes, it was in the article, and my question was in response - meatiger MU - 12/20 18:49:26
                         Who said government is paying them?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 16:51:27
                              They are paying for the advertising, the banners, the - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:05:06
                                   So bill the protesting parents for their poor behavior.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 17:10:06
                                        I didn't think you were such a pro government guy. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:11:22
                                             You're complaining about your system. Not mine.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 17:13:11
                                                  But you are taking the side of the government & their decisi - JeffB MU - 12/20 18:08:46
                                                       No he isn’t - pickle MU - 12/21 07:38:03
                                                       Their protests are stupid. It is all part of the system - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 18:12:00
                                                            Many young mothers haven't supported 'the system'... - JeffB MU - 12/20 18:21:30
               Anyone can reserve a room at the library.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/20 16:47:04
                    So what? (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/20 17:09:07




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