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Even though the Constitutional Convention of 1861

Posted on: August 23, 2019 at 19:44:25 CT
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overwhelmingly voted for Missouri to remain in the Union, Governor Claiborne Jackson led a “rump” assembly who voted to secede and established the Missouri state capitol in Neosho, then skedaddled for Texas after Union forces captured that town.

Missouri secessionists in that rump state assembly established the Missouri State Guard that fought alongside Confederate forces for the duration of the war.

Missouri was indeed the 12th Star on the Battle Flag of the Confederacy, but was not on the famous “Star and Bars” national flag of the CSA. The battle flag was incorporated on the second national CSA flag of 1863, so Missouri was finally represented on the national flag.

The Missouri state government was established by that convention during the war and it’s legitimacy was questionable because there were no public elections. Missouri had two dubiously legal state governments during the war and neither were elected by all of the people of the state.

To say that Missouri never left the Union was borne out because Missouri never had to be readmitted to the Union during reconstruction. But it is also true that a state government of Missouri seceded from the Union.

Winners write history, but the truth is much murkier.
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8 years in and still don't like being in the SEC - Stewart STL - 8/23 14:56:48
     I think it gets better every year. Anyone that could get - MATO MU - 8/24 13:12:06
     "You" aren't in the SEC (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/24 12:11:42
     You're not, so it's cool (nm) - Cosmo MU - 8/24 11:55:04
     “Tigerboard: Where Mizzou Fans Talk” - SSN 780 MU - 8/24 10:32:24
     Nothing wrong with the SEC - just need $5B in cash. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 8/24 09:12:40
          **** him - Stewart STL - 8/24 09:49:48
               **** you. (nm) - SSN 780 MU - 8/24 10:33:04
                    Carpetbagger lover - Stewart STL - 8/24 11:07:52
                         Yet you & your “business interests” loved him - Gary P. MU - 8/24 16:20:56
                         lol you're such a gigantic pussy it's incredible (nm) - Cosmo MU - 8/24 12:21:45
     RE: 8 years in and still don't like being in the SEC - st.charlestiger MU - 8/24 08:01:46
     So sorry (nm) - Nohawks MU - 8/24 07:06:40
     Is it all the money? The prestige? - samclemens MU - 8/24 05:13:12
     SLU isn't SEC.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 8/24 03:45:36
     SEC fans will probably never fully accept us but I’d still r - Beakerbasher KC - 8/24 01:52:40
     Take your business elsewhere. - SSN 780 MU - 8/24 00:04:27
     Good talk Russ...nm - bcoop199 KC - 8/23 23:35:33
     No comparison in a Sat afternoon at the swamp vs ames ia - philobeddoe MU - 8/23 22:42:39
     Move to kansas bocome a jayfag or a emaw - TGR84 MU - 8/23 22:24:19
     Missouri is a great addition to the SEC. Very happy to have - Ozland Tiger LSU - 8/23 21:09:45
          He's a lying troll/fraud with no connection to Mizzou. - Gary P. MU - 8/24 09:17:12
          He is not a mizzou fan. Just trolling(nm) - tman MU - 8/23 22:52:00
     You're delusional if you miss emaw, Lubock, or tejas...nm - tigertix MU - 8/23 19:20:45
     You're not a Mizzou fan & you've established that. - Gary P. MU - 8/23 18:51:20
     You're either really old, or you have some kind of agenda... - zounami MU - 8/23 18:28:55
     Too bad for you; not going back - MoArk MU - 8/23 17:59:41
     too bad for your codependence. I love the SEC. much better - TigerFan92 MU - 8/23 17:39:33
     Missouri is the 12th star on the confederate flag. - BigTime SEMO - 8/23 16:55:02
          Missouri never left the Union. It was one of the 5 "border - zounami MU - 8/23 18:21:02
               Even though the Constitutional Convention of 1861 - SSN 780 MU - 8/23 19:44:25
                    Fascinating history. If I knew it, I'd forgotten it.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 8/24 13:09:18
                    RE: Even though the Constitutional Convention of 1861 - KC rules MU - 8/24 00:55:07
                         Most definitely there were North vs South.... - kp83 MU - 8/24 09:27:38
                              RE: Most definitely there were North vs South.... - KC rules MU - 8/24 12:26:13
                    Correct, Missouri never left the Union, thus never had to - zounami MU - 8/23 22:37:47
          Missouri was neutral - Stewart STL - 8/23 17:02:35
               Neutral!?! You’re exposing your ignorance. - SSN 780 MU - 8/23 17:30:58
                    You're right. Given that Missouri remained in the Union... - zounami MU - 8/23 19:06:38
               ...before it seceded. Nice try.(nm) - BigTime SEMO - 8/23 17:07:18
     It matters when we are good - BurgTiger MU - 8/23 16:44:22
          To me, it doesn’t. They could go on to win multiple SEC and - Stewart STL - 8/24 09:59:17
          Maybe games at Kansas City in football & bball should - BigTime SEMO - 8/23 17:04:26
     same. Don't care at all about any SEC team (nm) - ChinaTiger KC - 8/23 16:24:22
     Go back to the Midwestern Cities Conference, dork. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 8/23 16:01:23
     The SEC is so much better and exciting(nm) - mattieo86 MU - 8/23 16:01:10
     I love it (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 8/23 15:59:06
          I love it too. Time to move on. In fact there is nothing I - MATO MU - 8/23 16:02:40
     Agreed, I have never liked being in the SEC. BUT - ToTheFinishLine MU - 8/23 15:46:42
          Not even the FL, TN, and GA games are appealing. I - Stewart STL - 8/23 15:52:13
               But VCU, Dayton & Davidson are appealing? Lol... - Lerxst MU - 8/23 16:24:53
                    Well, yeah. They're competitive and a cultural fit. - Stewart STL - 8/23 16:31:30
                         Uhhh, we crushed Florida & Tennessee last year, and the year - zounami MU - 8/23 18:41:45
                              Mizzou hasn't been relevant since Norfolk State sent them - Stewart STL - 8/23 19:11:19
                                   SLU hasn’t been relevant since Easy Ed Macauley. (nm) - SSN 780 MU - 8/23 19:46:29
                                        Mizzou hasn't won a Tournament game in this decade - Stewart STL - 8/23 23:14:59
                                             SLU has never gotten out of the second round, ever. - SSN 780 MU - 8/23 23:46:39
                                                  SLU has a BB national title. Something that your BB program - Stewart STL - 8/24 10:02:29
                                                       Like I said, SLU hasn’t been relevant since Easy Ed (nm) - SSN 780 MU - 8/24 10:24:33
                                                            And like I said, a national championship trumps everything - Stewart STL - 8/24 11:09:08
                                                                 Since you’re not a Mizzou fan, why are you posting - SSN 780 MU - 8/24 11:51:17
                                                                      because I want them to go back to what they used to be. - Stewart STL - 8/24 12:54:42
                                                                           “Come back”? LOL!!! Stay away! - SSN 780 MU - 8/24 13:04:18
                         Ha. So Virginia is a cultural fit w/St. Louis? Like i said.. - Lerxst MU - 8/23 17:24:16
               What Big XII games are appealing? - TigerMook MU - 8/23 16:05:43
                    Texas, Iowa State and OU - Stewart STL - 8/23 16:16:51
                         you got some bad acid, fella - TigerMook MU - 8/23 16:23:46
                              True. The way that Texas bullied other members - SSN 780 MU - 8/23 17:41:59
               Yeah, you're right actually lol(nm) - ToTheFinishLine MU - 8/23 16:01:05
               Go back to D&D on Saturday's then - TigerMook MU - 8/23 15:53:57
                    Once conferences expanded, the whole regional - Eggs KC - 8/23 15:58:22
               Then stop watching and stop posting?(nm) - Eggs KC - 8/23 15:52:35
                    I won't stop speaking my mind and I'm not the only who - Stewart STL - 8/23 15:55:29
                         What you feel is completely irrelevant. You’re not a Mizzou - SSN 780 MU - 8/23 19:51:06
                         I would bet fewer than 1% of MU fans under the age of 60... - zounami MU - 8/23 19:10:00
                              RE: I would bet fewer than 1% of MU fans under the age of 60... - KC rules MU - 8/24 11:38:43
                              Why have an age demarcation? I’m > 60 and - SSN 780 MU - 8/23 20:00:00
                         Sucks for you because Mizzou will be in the SEC - Eggs KC - 8/23 15:59:25
                         more than one moron thinks the world is flat, too - TigerMook MU - 8/23 15:57:53
     I only miss it in basketball. Not the least bit in football. - MUTGR MU - 8/23 15:45:06
          Not me. I like SEC hoops way more than the Big 12. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/23 18:24:29
          That’s the way I feel. The Big 12 had horrible places - SSN 780 MU - 8/23 16:05:28
               RE: That’s the way I feel. The Big 12 had horrible places - KC rules MU - 8/24 00:59:28
                    The only trouble with Austin - SSN 780 MU - 8/24 13:08:46
                         RE: The only trouble with Austin - KC rules MU - 8/24 13:29:42
                              True. - SSN 780 MU - 8/24 13:55:41
     I couldn't be happier. (nm) - mplsTiger MU - 8/23 15:40:13
     You're clearly trolling. Anybody who doesn't want to be - Diamond Dave MU - 8/23 15:39:08
          RE: You're clearly trolling. Anybody who doesn't want to be - Ernest T. Bass MU - 8/23 15:52:27
          I'm not BSing. Didn't like the move and don't now. - Stewart STL - 8/23 15:40:51
     Me too. But I think it's done. - ERB KC - 8/23 15:37:58
     Waco, TX; Manhattan, KS; Lawrence, KS; Lubbock, TX; Ames, IA - El Zorro MU - 8/23 15:36:45
          I don't care. They aren't one of us and we aren't of them. - Stewart STL - 8/23 15:43:22
               You are not the least bit “we.” - Gary P. MU - 8/23 18:58:37
               What about St. Bonaventure? That's a fun rivalry! (nm) - Lerxst MU - 8/23 16:02:29
                    Shows what you know. VCU, Dayton, and Davidson are our - Stewart STL - 8/23 16:18:20
                         Yech, Yech and Yech - El Zorro MU - 8/23 18:15:26
                         Color me impressed. * - Lerxst MU - 8/23 16:24:04
     It was a terrible conference, with horrible - ADelpiero10 MU - 8/23 15:24:29
          Once texass took over. (nm) - GA Tiger MU - 8/23 15:33:12
     Traditional rivalries were already ruined - gregor macgregor MU - 8/23 15:21:51
          But Mizzou has more in common with them than the SEC - Stewart STL - 8/23 15:24:59
               it's not a dating site - TigerMook MU - 8/23 15:45:44
                    Columbia is closer to Iowa than the South. - Stewart STL - 8/23 15:53:10
                         You’re touting proximity, yet the schools that you say - SSN 780 MU - 8/23 17:52:58
                         Columbia is closer to KC than "the south" too - TigerMook MU - 8/23 15:57:10
                              Big XII was the perfect conference for Mizzou. Period. - Stewart STL - 8/23 16:22:09
                                   The Big 8 was; it just wasn’t sustainable (nm) - tigersailor MU - 8/24 07:04:29
                                   The Big XII was an awful conference for Mizzou. Period. - TigerMook MU - 8/23 16:24:36
          Not to mention no network & unequal revenue - JimD STL - 8/23 15:24:00
     You're like some guy who puts ketchup on his steaks(nm) - Gyro MU - 8/23 15:20:36
          Haha. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 8/23 16:26:16
     True. We’re Midwest.....we’ll never fit in. Nm - ClassicTiger MU - 8/23 15:13:33
          Have you been to Sikeston? Poplar Bluff? - TigerMook MU - 8/23 15:47:14
               Have you been to Little Dixie Lake, just east of CoMo? - turnersmotiger MU - 8/23 17:09:24
               Have you been to St.Louis, Kansas City, Springfield? - ToTheFinishLine MU - 8/23 15:50:37
                    Springfield?!?! That's way more Southern than Midwestern. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 8/23 16:22:50
                         Once again, no it's not.(nm) - ToTheFinishLine MU - 8/23 17:41:29
                    RE: Have you been to St.Louis, Kansas City, Springfield? - TigerMook MU - 8/23 15:53:10
                         Springfield is not. I grew up there and there's almost no - ToTheFinishLine MU - 8/23 15:57:37
                              Missouri is extremely different than the upper midwest - Eggs KC - 8/23 16:02:49
                                   LOL what? No way dude.(nm) - ToTheFinishLine MU - 8/23 16:03:28
                                        I've lived in all those places. Have you?(nm) - Eggs KC - 8/23 16:04:24
                                             I've lived in Minneapolis and there's zero difference - ToTheFinishLine MU - 8/23 16:07:06
                                                  There is a big difference(nm) - tman MU - 8/23 23:02:16
                                                  Well now I know you're an idiot, thanks for confirming(nm) - Eggs KC - 8/23 16:08:19
                                                       Nah, you're just old and senile. Maybe when you lived in - ToTheFinishLine MU - 8/23 16:09:00
                              There's a Lambert's there. 'Nuff said. - TigerMook MU - 8/23 16:00:45
                                   There's a Lambert's IN Springfield? Where?(nm) - ToTheFinishLine MU - 8/23 16:01:57
                                        Springfield area. Sorry its 5 miles from the city limits - TigerMook MU - 8/23 16:04:40
                                             Point being, theres spots of South here and there but - ToTheFinishLine MU - 8/23 16:08:11
                                                  Have you been to Atlanta? Miami? - TigerMook MU - 8/23 16:12:12
                                                       Sure, but they are in an area that's unquestionably South - ToTheFinishLine MU - 8/23 17:52:38
     Good thing for you, you're a SLU fan(nm) - dangertim MU - 8/23 15:08:08
     I like it. tennessee fans have proven themselves worthy - lqf2b8 NWMSU - 8/23 15:04:18
          Maybe if Mizzou was in the West I would warm up to it. - Stewart STL - 8/23 15:05:51
               No, you're a lifeless little troll - Gary P. MU - 8/23 19:04:51
               Nope - JimD STL - 8/23 15:22:51




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