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RE: Worthy of debate? Sure. Im simply saying that

Posted on: December 27, 2018 at 11:33:05 CT
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We have a number of disagreements then.

First up - might be the ending of local tax dollars being used for local schools - wherein you have a situation where a Ladue and Shawnee (two MO examples) have generously funded schools while East of Troost and East St Louis not so much. Is some of the failure of public schools found thus in the funding model?

That you don't care to pay for our collective children's education or well-being is fcked beyond measure. Perhaps you would support the idea under the current model of being relieved that portion of your RE taxes that go to local schools once your kids graduate? That is what you suggest.

There are no easy answers. I DO however contend that the beginning of your education - is a time of a BROAD base and not a narrow one, that one does not major until later.

Nothing easy about any of it, but I don't think we should dismiss free college, perhaps with the caveat that you need the grades to get in and have free trade school open for those who want it - and we can add TECH to that old Vo-Tech model.
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College or vocational education should be "guaranteed by - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/27 10:47:49
     RE: College or vocational education should be "guaranteed by - MOCO SON MU - 12/27 12:13:39
     French medieval poetry needs national support - mu7176grad MU - 12/27 10:59:05
     But, but, Ras told me free stuff was dead below? He lied? - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/27 10:57:31
          Are the roads free?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 11:43:18
               yet, you whine that education should be. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/27 11:57:49
                    Are you incapable of understanding models - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 12:04:28
                         Nope, I love dating models, those ladies are hot. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/27 12:42:30
                              RE: Nope, I love dating models, those ladies are hot. - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 12:43:43
     Should there be no public education at all? - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 10:51:22
          We don't need more afro-american tranny feminism studies - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/27 11:19:31
               OK - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 11:25:34
                    when will the Central Educational Content Committee - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:59:34
                         I think our first meet is a week from now, but I will check(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 12:05:18
                              keep them current on what should be included in the - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 12:25:00
                                   We're not going to dumb it down for you, sorry(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 12:42:24
                                        that response makes zero sense (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 12:45:34
          There should not be free college education. - Badird MU - 12/27 10:59:33
               I agree the trades are vital - trade schools are vital - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 11:19:54
                    Worthy of debate? Sure. Im simply saying that - Badird MU - 12/27 11:25:19
                         RE: Worthy of debate? Sure. Im simply saying that - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 11:33:05
                              I suppose we do have a number of disagreements. - Badird MU - 12/27 11:41:28
                                   Bullsht - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 11:49:42
                                        First, Parenting is probably the best indicator of whether - Badird MU - 12/27 11:56:19
                                             There are problems everywhere - pretty easy to find them - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 12:12:42
                                                  ofc money helps. Read this - Badird MU - 12/27 12:19:08
               is that why it shouldn't be "free"? lol (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:01:46
                    Was it difficult to understand? - Badird MU - 12/27 11:03:08
                         no, it's not difficult to understand, it's difficult to acce - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:24:36
                              Nothing is "free". Someone always pays for it. - Badird MU - 12/27 11:28:35
                         there is no such thing as a free college education - pickle MU - 12/27 11:07:51
                              Free to the person receiving it. - Badird MU - 12/27 11:08:41
                                   why are you against free association? - pickle MU - 12/27 11:18:47
                                        Except I listed why. (nm) - Badird MU - 12/27 11:20:01
                                             you didn't answer my question (nm) - pickle MU - 12/27 11:30:10
                                             those "reasons" have nothing to do with someone being - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:25:50
                                                  Well Im glad youre here to cover that aspect. Feel free to - Badird MU - 12/27 11:29:13
          Yes, there should be no public education funded by theft. - pickle MU - 12/27 10:58:11
          parents? My parents didn't heal me when I was sick, - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 10:53:55
               Sanders used the idea that whereas a HS education - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 11:00:29
               Strawman.(nm) - Badird MU - 12/27 10:56:40
                    lmfao, you're such an idiot. that's an analogy, not - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:00:57
                    that wasn't a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 12/27 10:58:32
                         Arguing about parents "healing" instead of abt education - Badird MU - 12/27 10:59:59
                              lol no. It was taking his argument and applying it - pickle MU - 12/27 11:06:02
                                   It was arguing something else instead of the topic? (nm) - Badird MU - 12/27 11:06:56
                                        no, i was still arguing his logic/point (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:16:46
                                        he wasn't arguing something else - pickle MU - 12/27 11:08:37
                                             Youd be right if it werent the definition of a straw man. (nm) - Badird MU - 12/27 11:09:02
                                                  a straw man is a misrepresentation of an argument - pickle MU - 12/27 11:10:42
                                                       Rask asked: - Badird MU - 12/27 11:14:10
                                                            it's an analogy to offer an argument against his - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:18:21
                                                            It wasn't a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 12/27 11:17:30
                                                                 RE: It wasn't a straw man (nm) - Badird MU - 12/27 11:18:04
                                                            you are incapable of learning. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:17:24
                              You're truly an idiot (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:01:12
                                   ad hom (nm) - Badird MU - 12/27 11:01:52
                                        that's not an ad hom. lfmao. an ad hom is a type - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:19:42
                                             RE: that's not an ad hom. lfmao. an ad hom is a type - Badird MU - 12/27 11:30:21
                                        That wasn't an ad hom (nm) - pickle MU - 12/27 11:06:23
                                             lol (nm) - Badird MU - 12/27 11:07:52
                                                  It's not hard to learn what one is. - pickle MU - 12/27 11:09:21
                                                       Be my guest(nm) - Badird MU - 12/27 11:10:07
                                                            RE: Be my guest(nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:20:49
                                                                 lol, thats exactly what you did.(nm) - Badird MU - 12/27 11:29:58
                                                                      lmfao. i didn't state - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 11:42:10
                                                                           Yup, argue the poster not the topic. lol, too easy (nm) - Badird MU - 12/27 11:44:56
                                                                                there was no topic in that attack on you, sport (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/27 12:00:32
                                                            huh? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/27 11:17:06




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