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The arguments in 1868 against the 14th amendment

Posted on: October 31, 2018 at 08:45:41 CT

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are the exact same arguments today with regards to limiting immigration, ending birthright citizenship, etc.

AGAIN DON'T BE SO FREAKING NAIVE AND DENSE

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You lefties who have suddenly embraced the constitution - - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:04:49

Wasn't that meant to exclude the children of diplomats? - Mormad MU - 10/31 09:29:27

RE: You lefties who have suddenly embraced the constitution - - playhard NWMSU - 10/31 08:22:06

We had this debate in 1868 - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/31 08:17:43

So GAT would have first hand knowledge of this(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 10/31 08:26:16

And take notes when I speak.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 10/31 09:08:24

the author is incorrect and dishonest. he included - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:21:27

that's not the issue. - gmmm98 MU

- 10/31 08:30:38

Of course it is. What, pray tell, do you consider the issue - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:35:39

nice wall of irrelevant text(nm) - gmmm98 MU

- 10/31 08:53:47

It's just the issue surrounding the 14th. If you find it - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:56:38

so you're going to interpret constitutional language - gmmm98 MU

- 10/31 09:06:22

Implied? There's written records - Kaw-djer - 10/31 09:13:00

he can't be bothered by reading a useless wall of - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 09:15:51

Uh, what was implied 150 yrs ago IS THE DAMN CONSTITUTION - GA Tiger MU - 10/31 09:10:11

this doesn't even make sense - gmmm98 MU

- 10/31 09:14:43

do you have a position or statement here to make? a - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 09:17:04

you don't know anything about constitutional construction - gmmm98 MU

- 10/31 09:39:32

and thanks for never offering an argument on the - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 09:51:28

there is NO argument, is the thing - gmmm98 MU

- 10/31 13:17:15

Feel better? You may as well have said that into a mirror. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 09:49:46

sad, isn't it? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 09:10:34

why have scotus if interpreting meaning of words written - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 09:07:50

What do you think SCOTUS will do? I don't need to - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 09:07:10

So a newborn in America isn’t a citizen here - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/31 08:24:01

Moreover, do you think that child would NOT be a citizen of - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:39:38

1. It means they are a citizen of the country to which thei - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:38:15

So a small child who has only ever lived in us where they - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/31 09:17:17

If the parents are citizens of another country, they aren't - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 09:18:24

But they aren’t really citizens - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/31 10:00:16

what they are or aren't fleeing isn't the question - and its - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 10:15:11

The messy lie of citizenship and statism (nm) - Kaw-djer - 10/31 08:25:48

Same bigoted arguments today - MrBlueSky MU - 10/31 08:20:39

this issue hasn't anything to do with skin color nor ethnici - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:40:26

Lol, it absolutely does. And you're being purposely - MrBlueSky MU - 10/31 08:50:17

No, you're projecting upon millions of others the thinking a - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 09:03:03

No, like with most things when your side cannot persuade - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/31 08:59:27

At the end of every thread, you get this. "no, you're just. - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 09:08:34

RE: Same bigoted arguments today - None**** MU - 10/31 08:31:57

Illegal immigrants can't vote, schmuck. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/31 08:32:41

But their American born children can. Schmuck!(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/31 08:47:18

Well, they would be citizens, right? - MrBlueSky MU - 10/31 08:49:21

What is the right way? You don't need to amend the constitu - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:57:50

Would they? You do realize that is the topic at hand don't - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/31 08:56:57

RE: Illegal immigrants can't vote, schmuck. (nm) - None**** MU - 10/31 08:41:18

Link? - MrBlueSky MU - 10/31 08:46:17

You have an extraordinary amount of white guilt that - hokie VT - 10/31 08:31:22

Who did I call racist? I said the arguments being made - MrBlueSky MU - 10/31 08:33:55

that's a false statement, as none of the arguments made - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:42:22

The arguments in 1868 against the 14th amendment - MrBlueSky MU - 10/31 08:45:41

No, MBS, I'm not making any of those arguments, but yet - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:49:54

Sorry, I thought your post mentioned Chinamen, mongoloid, - hokie VT - 10/31 08:39:57

False - although those arguments were held, they were - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:22:23

did I say those arguments won out? - MrBlueSky MU - 10/31 08:25:19

I'm not of an ilk here, sport. Lumping me with anyone - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:45:00

You're the only person on this board making reference to the - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:44:16

The author is incorrect (nm) - Kaw-djer - 10/31 08:19:21

5-4 upholding birthright citizenship. Roberts playing role - Emoji Man MSU - 10/31 08:16:30

Devil's advocate, is a newborn under the jurisdiction of the - TheWildcat STL - 10/31 08:15:37

No. No one is (nm) - Kaw-djer - 10/31 08:19:42

yes. If you and your wife are in Spain on vacation and she - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:17:16

What if a mom was on an extended sexual tourism tour of - Emoji Man MSU - 10/31 08:22:09

RE: What if a mom was on an extended sexual tourism tour of - 90Tiger MU - 10/31 08:23:17