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I actually like Lock a lot. Although there is no doubt that

Posted on: October 24, 2018 at 12:31:55 CT

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he hasn't shown up at all in big games.

I totally understand why he is our QB, and why we haven't even needed to see another QB yet.

But as to how it relates to Odom... he adopted these players a long time ago. If he chooses to ride wins or losses with certain players at this point of his coaching career, its definitely on him if it doesn't work out. And its on him (in a good way) if it does work out.

My fear is that he hasn't recruited anyone better (or even close to as good) as Lock.

And if you take Lock away from this team and add any of the other QBs on the roster... I doubt we even have the 11-9 record we do the past 20 games.

I just look at how Larry Smith and Pinkel did it.. and by this point in their coaching tenures at Mizzou, Smith had Corby Jones as the future. And Pinkel had Brad Smith as the present and future and Daniel was only a few months from committing. I don't see the same thing in Odom

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Pinkel was three times the coach Odom was... was better - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 10:45:32

Your beakers suck. (nm) - go tigers MU

- 10/24 17:29:45

OK, but GP groomed BO for the job...Head of FB Ops, then LB - tigertix MU - 10/24 16:22:44

Odom didn't copy GP the way GP copied Don James - that's - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 10/24 17:09:56

He certainly seems to have rejected following the system - tigersailor MU - 10/25 07:28:00

Can't I like them both? - ERB KC - 10/24 15:49:02

You can. It’s difficult for small thinkers (nm) - Gary P. MU - 10/24 19:37:53

I’m there with you - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 16:42:45

Lol. Pinkel f-ed Mizzou on his way out. - jake_mu MU - 10/24 15:34:49

This is dumb - kcnorthside KC - 10/24 14:56:19

PETRINO WAS THE ANSWER! - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 10/24 13:56:59

Odom has a better record at MU than Pinkel - HDTiger MU - 10/24 13:47:30

He inherited an infinitely better team - alwaysright MU - 10/24 16:34:45

13 years prior to GP = 52-91. 13 years prior to BO = 109-59 - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 13:55:13

On Odom, do we need a bigger data sample?(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 10/24 14:39:18

Yes, we should wait until after the 2040 season(nm) - tigersailor MU - 10/24 15:55:34

That's the gentle question right? If we wait too long, and - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 14:59:53

RE: That's the gentle question right? If we wait too long, and - Jmill88 MU - 10/24 19:30:08

I think we will know enough by end of the arky game - tigersailor MU - 10/24 16:15:23

not early, we started a wr at QB when a mac team - Jeff85 MU - 10/24 13:42:07

You mean Urban Meyer beat us when we had our backup QB - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 14:04:21

he did a good job, but the first 4 years were very - Jeff85 MU - 10/24 15:24:08

The elephant in the room is: - samclemens MU

- 10/24 12:10:32

Lock has thrown some soul-crushing INTs - ERB KC - 10/24 15:52:32

LIKE ^ - Turn2 MU - 10/24 13:06:47

I'm not on either bandwagon but I'm cutting Lock a - Tiger Tim MU - 10/24 12:20:27

Why doesn't he have his own better QB then? Pinkel had - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 12:15:06

Quite a bit of stupid in this thread. Wouldn’t be nearly as - Gary P. MU - 10/24 14:25:56

You are debating, and losing badly (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 14:37:03

No and that’s another failure on your part. - Gary P. MU - 10/24 15:40:56

I'm Gary P., and I effin' hate you. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 10/24 14:34:46

I don’t even hate you Raymond. At the same time, - Gary P. MU - 10/24 15:38:08

Lock is not a bad qb. He is very talented and a raw - Erwin Fletcher STL - 10/24 12:17:48

RE: Lock is not a bad qb. He is very talented and a raw - RNcaud MU - 10/24 12:45:39

He is .. what his record says he is (nm) - samclemens MU

- 10/24 13:01:58

I actually like Lock a lot. Although there is no doubt that - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 12:31:55

We don't know if we have the next guy on the roster or not.. - True Son MU - 10/24 14:01:22

both did play last week - Gamagrass MU - 10/24 14:38:32

I know they both played last week... - True Son MU - 10/24 14:46:27

This weekend will be the biggest win of Lock's career. - DrViagra MU

- 10/24 12:13:14

And that in itself is a sad statement on a senior QB - samclemens MU

- 10/24 12:30:34

He didn't leave high school close to a winner. - DrViagra MU

- 10/24 12:32:44

Oh, brother. Didn't know that. Thought any four star QB - samclemens MU

- 10/24 12:35:13

Similar to Gabbert I think. Pretty sure Blaine had terrible - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 12:38:26

yep (nm) - DrViagra MU

- 10/24 13:22:12

RE: Pinkel was three times the coach Odom was... was better - Ragarm MU - 10/24 11:56:58

Be patient and try not - Nohawks MU - 10/24 11:49:56

Why are you such an a**hole? - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:59:29

Hey. Just remember if you don’t support Odom - Nohawks MU - 10/24 12:51:08

Hadn't thought about it in that way - samclemens MU

- 10/24 13:03:06

It was only the racist whites who turned on Pinkel after - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 10/24 11:37:43

thank goodness, with Jon Butler's guidance, - FootballRefugee MU

- 10/24 13:34:20

Yep! #WokeTigers and GP saved a life! - jake_mu MU - 10/24 12:04:33

You've been scammed by the left. And you have insulted a ton - BingBing MU - 10/24 11:53:48

RE: You've been scammed by the left. And you have insulted a ton - RNcaud MU - 10/24 12:03:22

I don't respond to racists like you (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:57:26

RE: I don't respond to racists like you (nm) - BingBing MU - 10/24 12:34:55

All you are missing is your white KKK cap. Go take your - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 13:18:50

You do know those laws were abolished years ago, right? - BingBing MU - 10/24 14:40:48

RE: You do know those laws were abolished years ago, right? - RNcaud MU - 10/24 15:06:14

So just a rant is your response. You need help. You're indoc - BingBing MU - 10/24 17:56:35

RE: So just a rant is your response. You need help. You're indoc - RNcaud MU - 10/24 19:12:46

RE: I don't respond to racists like you (nm) - RNcaud MU - 10/24 12:49:14

The R word. Meaningless in a society that throws it around - BingBing MU - 10/24 18:11:37

I don't have time for racist white men's feelings - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 10/24 11:55:29

What are you, green? Hating on fellow Tigers. Who taught you - BingBing MU - 10/24 12:37:30

RE: What are you, green? Hating on fellow Tigers. Who taught you - RNcaud MU - 10/24 12:50:02

My goodness, he owns you (nm) - Gary P. MU - 10/24 19:45:03

⬆️👬 - Emoji Man MSU - 10/24 17:13:25

STOP INVOKING VIOLENCE ON TB * - RNcaud MU - 10/24 19:27:01

RE: ⬆️👬 - RNcaud MU - 10/24 19:13:48

RE: I don't have time for racist white men's feelings - RNcaud MU - 10/24 12:03:55

⬆️🌈 - Emoji Man MSU - 10/24 17:12:36

RE: ⬆️🌈 - RNcaud MU - 10/24 19:16:14

RE: ⬆️🌈 - RNcaud MU - 10/24 19:14:21

I don't blame him... the crazy radical left will destroy any - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:41:37

RE: Is the "crazy left" threatening to bomb political - Stewart MU - 10/24 17:20:39

So you think people on the right did that? The Chinese or - BingBing MU - 10/24 18:08:05

RE: Can't blame the Russians and Chinese for - Stewart MU - 10/24 18:14:18

Status Quo? Wow, did you get that word from a - BingBing MU - 10/24 18:15:22

RE: I know it is too big of a word for a Trumpler to - Stewart MU - 10/24 18:21:15

What's a Trumpler. Did you get the word on the playground? - BingBing MU - 10/24 18:52:39

RE: I don't blame him... the crazy radical left will destroy any - RNcaud MU - 10/24 12:04:58

Says the guy that wants to take my guns away - Hickeytime MU

- 10/24 12:13:12

RE: Says the guy that wants to take my guns away - RNcaud MU - 10/24 12:50:23

RE: Says the guy that wants to take my guns away - RNcaud MU - 10/24 12:50:19

⬆️🐓🍭 - Emoji Man MSU - 10/24 17:14:56

RE: ⬆️🐓🍭 - RNcaud MU - 10/24 19:15:47

NAZI, RACIST, MISOGYNIST, RAPIST... I'm gonna scream - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 12:08:12

You need help. You've been scammed by people who make a - BingBing MU - 10/24 12:43:56

You are a brainless racist zombie of hate and intolerance (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 13:13:58

RE: You are a brainless racist zombie of hate and intolerance (nm) - BingBing MU - 10/24 18:13:28

RE: You need help. You've been scammed by people who make a - RNcaud MU - 10/24 12:51:03

⬆️🧚🏼‍♂️ - Emoji Man MSU - 10/24 17:16:43

RE: ⬆️🧚🏼‍♂️ - RNcaud MU - 10/24 19:16:32

RE: Pinkel was three times the coach Odom was... was better - RNcaud MU - 10/24 11:23:13

⬆️👨‍👦 - Emoji Man MSU - 10/24 17:18:07

RE: ⬆️👨‍👦 - RNcaud MU - 10/24 19:16:42

If Odom can run the table this year it would be a very - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 11:13:50

Not sure I'd call it impressive. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/24 11:27:27

Florida is ranked in the top 10 and Kentucky is 14. I call - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 11:41:25

RE: Florida is ranked in the top 10 and Kentucky is 14. I call - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/24 11:46:00

Wins vs the #9 or #12 would be impressive. Winning - Gary P. MU - 10/24 11:40:30

I believe both are over-rated. UGA will expose UF this - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/24 11:45:42

If anyone's overrated it's Georgia. (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 13:58:42

You obviously know more than the coaches who’ve made this a - Gary P. MU - 10/24 12:09:19

RE: Not sure I'd call it impressive. - redngray MU - 10/24 11:28:52

Just sharing my opinion. No different from anyone else on - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/24 11:39:55

Where did you hallucinate that he said that? (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:29:44

We're a different breed that strives for greatness, and - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:28:26

We all bask in your glory - redngray MU - 10/24 11:29:43

Thanks for proving my OP completely correct (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:30:15

Keep screaming at the sky dude. nm - redngray MU - 10/24 12:00:55

Won't argue that (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:21:34

Then how about tabling your agenda until after the season. - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 11:23:05

Why even have Tigerboard then? If you are so offended - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:24:40

offended? lol, no. disagree with you and think you should - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 11:41:12

Thanks for proving my OP correct. Everyone that disagrees - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:42:38

you don't have a point (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 13:38:44

To be fair, I think many of those who apologize for Odom's - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/24 11:10:45

Odom is feeling plenty of heat, probably most put on - Erwin Fletcher STL - 10/24 11:04:54

Decisions made do add up - tigersailor MU - 10/25 06:08:28

pinkel's first 4 year win totals 4 -5 -8 - 5 - so STFU (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 11:04:09

didn't they play one less game back then?(nm) - tigerNkc UMKC - 10/24 12:47:46

Completely different inherited situations(nm) - Eggs MU - 10/24 11:18:36

So 5 wins in year 4 was due to his inherited situation? All - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 11:21:00

Are you trying to prove the point of my OP correct? (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:23:48

That was a bad, bad year, Pinkel's worst - Eggs MU - 10/24 11:23:15

You don't much about the program's history do you? (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:06:25

sure do, all about it. I'm just giving you some facts, boy - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 11:12:42

13 years prior to GP = 52-91. 13 years prior to BO = 109-59 - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:17:20

I know my history, sport. Just giving a more complete pictu - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 11:22:11

Learn your history and we wouldn't have to school you on it(nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:25:19

I liked HCGP, and I think Odom can be successful. But, can - Fool on the Hill MU - 10/24 10:57:41

They didn't turn him into a passer. He threw less passes - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:01:58

So what do you want? Do you want Odom fired right now?(nm) - Fool on the Hill MU - 10/24 11:02:40

I'd like to be better than last place in recruiting and .500 - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:05:58

RE: I'd like to be better than last place in recruiting and .500 - RayPecTiger18 MU - 10/24 12:25:06

Glad you are satisfied (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 12:33:48

well, there's a genius position. the rest of us would hate - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 11:13:15

Pinkel had 10 years as a head coach when he took - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 10:49:47

Pinkel went 11-0-1 his 5th year (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 10:53:45

I love GP. Now what? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 11:23:34

Then why did you reply to a thread that wasn't about you... - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:26:18

never said it shouldn't be "allowed". I'm telling you my opi - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 11:42:10

I didn't get your pre-approved talking points... please - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:43:55

Pinkel was a really good coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 11:13:49

RE: Pinkel had 10 years as a head coach when he took - redngray MU - 10/24 10:53:34

it's not a head scratching loss just because you don't - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 10:54:31

How hilarious and sad at the same time - redngray MU - 10/24 11:26:18

So when you can’t debate the point you attack the poster? - JimD MU

- 10/24 11:13:56

The "so" tell followed by the absurd absolute... you're - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:19:11

I don't want to wait till 2030 (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 10:52:31

then advocate for a new coach AFTER BO fails this year. - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 11:24:21

What's the point of even being on TB if we can only discuss - North co-co champs MU - 10/24 11:27:20

I'm not offended in the least, lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/24 13:27:35