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My views on trade policy/agreements

Posted on: October 17, 2018 at 12:45:36 CT
meatiger MU
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To help clarify a few comments

First of all, I think the ultimate trade policy would be complete free trade..no different than when a product moves from state to state. Also, ideally, it would be free both ways, and any intellectual property would be treated the same.

The likelihood of this occurring is rather low...so in that absence, anything that moves us closer (especially if significantly closer) would be acceptable to me. I think all parts of the new agreement should be closer, not where some parts get closer, and some do not.

I am completely against employing various trade barriers (i.e. tariff war) as a tactic to move towards free trade. I think it is a horrible tactic as it creates mis-trust between the parties negotiating. Additionally, hundreds of trade agreements have been made without a pre-agreement escalation.

I think history has well shown that overall reductions have substantially occurred over the last 50 year, and I think the trend will continue.

The USA has shown in can be very competitive in some industries (and companies) that we should not be afraid of free trade agreements....see agriculture, aeronautics, and large scale manufacturing (CAT), and in many cases auto manufacturing/design knowledge, and technology. In fact, our trade wars lately have specifically hurt these industries and companies as a result.

Now for Trump:

- I agree with his philosophy on free trade, but I have no idea exactly what he means by fair trade
- I disagree with his use of tactics around tariffs and protectionism
- I disagree with parts of the new US/Can/Mex agreement, but I am not sure of the whole agreement, as I am sure there are some good sides as well
- I welcome his discussions with China (or any country) on convincing them to reduce their tariffs and barriers
- I think he should sign TPP as it fits the goals above...although I understand he prefers unilateral agreements....if he can move forward quickly with those and they cover what TTP does and better, I would be fully supportive
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My views on trade policy/agreements - meatiger MU - 10/17 12:45:36
     what is/was your position on NAFTA? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/17 13:29:47
          RE: what is/was your position on NAFTA? (nm) - meatiger MU - 10/17 14:12:16
               why do you keep calling trade governed by NAFTA - 90Tiger STL - 10/17 14:15:49
                    RE: why do you keep calling trade governed by NAFTA - meatiger MU - 10/17 14:19:39
                         you keep saying it made trade more free. nothing could - 90Tiger STL - 10/17 14:26:47
                              RE: you keep saying it made trade more free. nothing could - meatiger MU - 10/17 15:15:59
                                   No, that isn't my claim. My claim is that it is an agreemen - 90Tiger STL - 10/17 15:23:37
                                        RE: No, that isn't my claim. My claim is that it is an agreemen - meatiger MU - 10/17 15:32:23
                                             what does trump have to do with your support of NAFTA and - 90Tiger STL - 10/17 15:46:16
                                                  RE: what does trump have to do with your support of NAFTA and - meatiger MU - 10/17 16:10:18
                                                       lol - it's government REGULATION, meat. why can't you - 90Tiger STL - 10/17 20:50:00
                                             lmfao you KEEP calling it free trade. (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/17 15:41:40
                                                  RE: lmfao you KEEP calling it free trade. (nm) - meatiger MU - 10/17 15:59:18
          Because they really are not conservatives - meatiger MU - 10/17 13:02:48
               Talk like that gets you labeled the biggest leftist - JG MU - 10/17 13:05:59
                    well..you favor - meatiger MU - 10/17 13:07:19
                         Link? - JG MU - 10/17 13:10:27
                              RE: Link? - meatiger MU - 10/17 13:11:46
                                   I know English is hard but asking for a link - JG MU - 10/17 13:13:35
                                        RE: I know English is hard but asking for a link - meatiger MU - 10/17 13:19:52
                                             It's easier than you think - MIZ45 MU - 10/17 13:20:46
                                        Pretty much any of your "Trump to [name].....GFY" posts - MIZ45 MU - 10/17 13:19:19
                                             No I axed for where I called for more regulations - JG MU - 10/17 13:22:55
                                                  Your comments in that thread show you are mad about - MIZ45 MU - 10/17 13:25:38
                                                  RE: No I axed for where I called for more regulations - meatiger MU - 10/17 13:24:55
     You need to read Adam Smith "The Wealth of Nations" - Spanky KU - 10/17 12:56:27
          RE: You need to read Adam Smith "The Wealth of Nations" - Badird MU - 10/17 13:03:28
               Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was not a retaliatory tariff. - Spanky KU - 10/17 13:10:00
                    When did I say anything of the sort? - Badird MU - 10/17 13:33:07
                         The topic is retaliatory tariffs... read the OP again: - Spanky KU - 10/17 14:33:47
          LOL - meatiger MU - 10/17 13:01:15
               Not protectionist tariffs .. RETALIATORY!!! - Spanky KU - 10/17 13:11:06
                    RE: Not protectionist tariffs .. RETALIATORY!!! - meatiger MU - 10/17 13:13:29
                         Nope! They are not protectionist - Spanky KU - 10/17 13:17:18
                              RE: Nope! They are not protectionist - meatiger MU - 10/17 13:19:05
                                   We are talking about RETALIATORY tariffs (per YOUR OP) - Spanky KU - 10/17 13:24:28
                                        RE: We are talking about RETALIATORY tariffs (per YOUR OP) - meatiger MU - 10/17 13:28:05
                                             Obama ordered protective tariffs with nary a peep from you - Spanky KU - 10/17 14:32:22




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