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The average amount defrauded was around $200k

Posted on: August 7, 2018 at 12:09:30 CT
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Manafort's fraud was in the millions.

Manaforts use of hidden offshore accounts is an additional criminal act (1 count for each year); not to mention attempting to influence potential witnesses, which landed him back in jail.

I seriously doubt that Manfort receives a sentence of fewer than 10 years, with federal sentencing, he'll do 85% of that time...barring a trump pardon in January 2021, as Don leaves DC.
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My prediction...Manafort will be found guilty - Spanky KU - 8/7 11:40:09
     don't know..don't care - meatiger MU - 8/7 12:16:21
     There are 2 trials. - Silas MU - 8/7 12:07:44
     First concession? - Toger STL - 8/7 12:00:14
          I think the Gates testimony shows that Manafort knowingly - Spanky KU - 8/7 12:10:43
               The difficult challenge in showing that Gates was THE - tigerdb MU - 8/7 12:14:15
     About what I expect. I wonder if - GA Tiger MU - 8/7 11:59:41
     Likely, Manafort never walks as a free man again, - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 11:52:15
          This from the same guy who predicted a Hilary landslide the - DHighlander NWMSU - 8/7 12:12:17
          yes because life sentences are preferred for white collar - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 8/7 11:59:55
               He is nearly 70 and faces decades(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 12:01:42
                    the average sentence is 15 months. does DECADES seem - blake1771 KC - 8/7 12:02:51
                         The average amount defrauded was around $200k - tigerdb MU - 8/7 12:09:30
                              show me ANY tax cheat and i use that term loosely - blake1771 KC - 8/7 12:12:26
                                   I said 10 years. - tigerdb MU - 8/7 12:18:13
                         For what ? - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 12:06:11
                              nobody is incarcerted for FARA violations. the average - blake1771 KC - 8/7 12:07:35
                                   You need to pay more attention - from NY Mag: - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 12:35:46
          You are insane. - Spanky KU - 8/7 11:58:34
               NO, I find the guy to be a scumbag and want him to face - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 12:01:09
                    Where did I say the judge would let him skate? - Spanky KU - 8/7 12:05:22
                         RE: Where did I say the judge would let him skate? - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 12:06:39
                              That does not say what you think it says. - Spanky KU - 8/7 12:09:03
                                   "Judge will be lenient and not impose jail time" - Badird MU - 8/7 12:17:30
                                        That does not mean skate.... - Spanky KU - 8/7 12:19:04
                                             UR Pathetic(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 12:36:40
                                                  No.. I am (as usual) factually correct while you (as usual) - Spanky KU - 8/7 12:48:34
                                                       By skated I meant no time. (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 13:04:22
                                                            And I didn't. Getting fined millions of dollars is not - Spanky KU - 8/7 13:07:36
                                                                 The fine for hiding those foreign accounts is 100% - tigerdb MU - 8/7 13:15:55
                                                                      Hiding offshore accounts and not reporting the income result - Spanky KU - 8/7 13:31:27
                                                                           LOL, that's a pretty dumb take. - tigerdb MU - 8/7 13:38:58
                                                                                We shall see. Should I add you to my 'weep watch list'? - Spanky KU - 8/7 14:02:48
                                                       No, you arent. - Badird MU - 8/7 12:59:23
                                             Avoiding jail is skating, Spanky. - Badird MU - 8/7 12:21:39
                                                  Nope. In this country, people don't generally go to prison - Spanky KU - 8/7 12:29:58
                                                       Tax fraud, along with: - Badird MU - 8/7 12:35:04
                                                            63% do not go to jail over this - Spanky KU - 8/7 13:09:58
                                                                 15 months that Blake loves to cite...and 63.9% - tigerdb MU - 8/7 13:13:54
                                                                      Ouch, specifically this: - Badird MU - 8/7 13:43:33
                                                                           Spanky's just playing games with this... - tigerdb MU - 8/7 13:45:50
                                                                                I dont think Spanky is playing anything. - Badird MU - 8/7 13:49:34
                                                                                     We shall see how it turns out... You think he is going away - Spanky KU - 8/7 14:17:16
                                                                                          Manafort is already "seeing prison"...every time he leaves - tigerdb MU - 8/7 14:36:17
                                                                                               Mueller could have passed the case and concentrated on - Spanky KU - 8/7 14:53:44
                                                       yeah, that's wrong. - tigerdb MU - 8/7 12:33:38
                                                            Igor Olenicoff (and Ty Warner) - Spanky KU - 8/7 12:46:49
                                                                 Based on what you posted - those individuals were not - tigerdb MU - 8/7 13:01:28
                                                                 lol, first "plea bargain" not trial. - Badird MU - 8/7 12:58:42
                                                            ...and didnt go to prison. (nm) - Badird MU - 8/7 12:35:25
                                                                 Done - Spanky KU - 8/7 12:49:50
                                                                 Hell, even Blake says it's only 15 months.... - tigerdb MU - 8/7 12:37:51
                                                                      OFFSHORE tax violations... no jail 60% of the time - Spanky KU - 8/7 13:32:24
                                                                           You're conflating the charges... - tigerdb MU - 8/7 13:42:08
                                                                                Nope.. You are taking stats on ALL tax fraud cases - Spanky KU - 8/7 14:55:28
                                                                                     You don't understand the difference between offshore - tigerdb MU - 8/7 15:20:25
                                                  Honestly, Id rather have a convo with Pickle than Spanky - Badird MU - 8/7 12:28:19
                                        * at least if not for a Trump pardon. (nm) - Badird MU - 8/7 12:18:31
          do you find that to be a fair sentence in accordance with - blake1771 KC - 8/7 11:52:55
               I don't follow tax and bank fraud sentences too very much - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 11:58:49
                    you didn't answer my question. do you think a life sentence - blake1771 KC - 8/7 11:59:34
                         He faces 305 years if convicted of everything. - Badird MU - 8/7 12:07:18
                              show me another tax evader who got 300 years - blake1771 KC - 8/7 12:08:17
                                   RE: show me another tax evader who got 300 years - Badird MU - 8/7 12:14:28
                         I don't know a thing about "avg" times - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 12:03:33
                              Bingo. (nm) - Badird MU - 8/7 12:14:59
     The failing to register foreign accounts looks pretty solid - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 8/7 11:45:46
          wasn't charged with conspiracy, but there are serious tax - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 11:53:22
               do you think 300 years or whatever it adds up to,so - blake1771 KC - 8/7 11:55:03
                    Holy ****, blake. Its not just tax evasion. - Badird MU - 8/7 12:13:04
                    He is 69 right now - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 12:08:35
                         3 weeks could be a death sentence at that age. (nm) - DC Jayhawk KU - 8/7 13:00:34
                         i think if convicted his sentence should be in line with - blake1771 KC - 8/7 12:09:55
                              Its not just tax fraud, Blake. (nm) - Badird MU - 8/7 12:14:09
                                   no ****. i said i used that term loosely. financial crimes. - blake1771 KC - 8/7 12:19:10
                                        So you admit there are many felony charges against him? - Badird MU - 8/7 12:23:36
                                             Blake seems too stupid to realize that there are multiple - tigerdb MU - 8/7 12:32:08
          lol what about TAX EVASION/FRAUD, genius. - Badird MU - 8/7 11:51:11
               yes moron like I said no bombshell of - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 8/7 11:58:58
                    But you said nothing of the heftier charges. - Badird MU - 8/7 12:00:36
     If that happens then the rule of law is dead in this country - catbirdseat MU - 8/7 11:44:29
          Please give us that massive fraud list. You won't of course - GA Tiger MU - 8/7 12:01:31
               You dont think there was tax fraud? lol (nm) - Badird MU - 8/7 12:04:05
                    There was. I'm asking for the rest of the frauds. - GA Tiger MU - 8/7 12:05:49
                         RE: There was. I'm asking for the rest of the frauds. - Badird MU - 8/7 12:25:43
          The sentence will be in accordance with the law - Spanky KU - 8/7 11:49:40
     Us few conservatives feel criminals should be punished - JG A - 8/7 11:43:27
          the problem is nobody is ever prosecuted for FARA violations - blake1771 KC - 8/7 11:51:24
               yes partisanship prosecution (and not) is a real - JG A - 8/7 12:01:42
               Right, falsifying payments on loans is nbd. (nm) - Badird MU - 8/7 11:52:52
                    it's a deal. not a BIG deal and certainly not something the - blake1771 KC - 8/7 11:54:09
                         It occurred during the Trump campaign, Blake. - Badird MU - 8/7 11:56:52
                              surely? why deal in conjecture when you have no clue? - blake1771 KC - 8/7 11:58:32
                                   I dont think this is about Trump/Russia. - Badird MU - 8/7 12:02:07
                                        more to come? you are literally just making **** up - blake1771 KC - 8/7 12:08:46
                                             You think all of the information against Manafort is out? - Badird MU - 8/7 12:13:38
          You are not a conservative - Spanky KU - 8/7 11:50:11
               Without lying....well that ends that* - JG A - 8/7 11:59:49
                    No George.. you are NOT a conservative - Spanky KU - 8/7 12:07:34
                         I'd guess that a minimum you don't understand - JG A - 8/7 12:15:52
                              Nope.. I understand them all. Unlike you who fails at - Spanky KU - 8/7 12:50:57
                                   I can't make up that kind of irony - JG A - 8/7 12:52:22
                                        You are struggling still - Spanky KU - 8/7 12:58:21




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