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Nobody, we haven't had an avg defender in the backcourt

Posted on: November 8, 2017 at 14:57:45 CT
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since Wes Clark.

Geist, Walton, Phillips, Vanleer, and Wright were all between terrible and atrocious perimeter defenders. Given we also have had no shot blockers, our inability to keep anyone in front of us really limited us defensively. Which was elevated because we had such an inability to score given our terrible offensive design and approach.
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CVL plays half court defense and doesn't make mistakes - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 13:50:49
     he's no Danny Allouche(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 11/8 15:41:44
     He has utility as a shooter but over exposing him - longtimereader MU - 11/8 15:19:07
     Under KA, he wasn't a good defender or shooter. Maybe that - zounami MU - 11/8 14:46:10
     if he starts or plays 15 minutes per game it will clown all - Jeff85 MU - 11/8 14:45:10
          Do you think CVL will start or get 15 mpg? - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 15:31:26
          Let's talk when the season is over... - Downstate UI - 11/8 14:51:23
               that's why I said if - Jeff85 MU - 11/8 14:53:46
                    15 minutes per game? with this roster? - GapDaddy MU - 11/8 15:15:46
                         He played about 10 min vs ku for what it's worth - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:19:01
                              poster suggested averaging 15 mpg. - GapDaddy MU - 11/8 15:25:29
                                   Right, and CVL still played 9 or 10 minutes with 12 guys - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:30:53
     In two days, we will all know, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 11/8 14:45:04
     In Cuonzo I Trust! - tiger4real MU - 11/8 14:42:57
     No idea where the idea CVL is good on defense came from - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 14:31:03
     it's not that he's making mistakes. it's that he's slow and - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:12:52
          If CVL defends more than a couple consecutive possesions... - GapDaddy MU - 11/8 14:15:30
               exactly. he forces his teammates into bad situations. he - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:19:36
               I don't see it. he's not a good athlete but he is effective - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 14:17:49
                    he's not effective on defense. at all. (nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:20:20
                         Cuonzo knows a lot more about defense than you(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 14:21:19
                              that's certainly my hope. i trust he knows a bad defender - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:24:31
                              You can't teach quickness - catbirdseat MU - 11/8 14:23:08
                                   i can sit a used pleather recliner on the court and have it - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:26:57
                                        CVL vs Josh Kroenke who ya got?(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:29:45
                                             on the bench? both. (nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:32:08
                                                  No, which would you rather have on the floor - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:35:46
                                                       ugh. don't make me. i don't wanna (nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:37:51
                                             Kroenke had 2 knee surgeries at MU (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:31:29
                                                  ok(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:34:50
                                                       Just saying you are comparing someone who is healthy - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:35:43
                                                            Don't care(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:36:28
                                                                 Who you got, Jevon Crudup or Chris Lindley? (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:38:03
                                                                      always brings up ku because he is a - Jeff85 MU - 11/8 14:47:21
                                                                      Not relevant to this thread, stay on topic(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:40:58
                                                                      depends. how many feet does lindley have in this scenario?(nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:38:49
                                                                           1. But the one he has is dead (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:40:44
                                                                                Leave it to you to bring up some random beaker(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:42:15
                                                                                     He never played for ku, was Jevon's teammate (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:45:00
                                                                                          I wish I could say cool story bro, but I can't(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:50:32
                                                                                          shhhh. let it go. it's ok. it's oooooo kaaaaay (nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:49:55
                                   Chris Kramer didn't have any quickness - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 14:25:48
                                        LOL. Chris Kramer averaged over 2 steals per game to go with - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:30:58
                                             He actually played 20+ mintues a game and - catbirdseat MU - 11/8 14:34:34
                                                  mind = bottled (nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:35:37
                                        LOL - catbirdseat MU - 11/8 14:28:06
                         Not that I blame anyone, but it's like they haven't been - TheWildcat STL - 11/8 14:20:48
                              bottles the mind. i really never thought i'd see a day where - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:22:43
                                   I don't have an opinion either way on CVL, but I wonder - LimerNick MU - 11/8 14:32:06
                                        could be. there's also a little "great white hope" going on - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:35:02
                                             BINGO(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/8 14:37:24
     Vanleer's main limitation was his role - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:53:57
          answer this - Bangin3s MU - 11/8 14:36:12
               Nobody, we haven't had an avg defender in the backcourt - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:57:45
                    RE: Nobody, we haven't had an avg defender in the backcourt - catbirdseat MU - 11/8 15:16:04
          Correct, last year we had no inside presense - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 13:57:49
          he Didn’t stand stationary against kU - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/8 13:56:03
               And perhaps he was a sophomore who wasn't ready playing on - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:26:00
               Right, he is in a new offense now. Will be interesting - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:58:05
                    Championship teams - catbirdseat MU - 11/8 14:00:22
                         We have more scholarship players I believe than - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:01:59
                              We have a distracting amount of depth(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 14:02:49
                                   Agree. Even assuming we get it down to a 9 or 10 man - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:04:54
     He doesn't make mistakes and he doesn't produce positives. - TheWildcat STL - 11/8 13:51:43
          He can make open shots - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 13:55:34
               What is he? 32% from 3?(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/8 13:58:04
                    Phillips is the better shooter - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 13:59:02
                         Phillips is also a much better passer - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 14:40:47
               If they kept a stat for most shots hitting only the - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:57:40
                    More than a mischaracterization. It's not bordering on an .. - GapDaddy MU - 11/8 14:13:40
                         He wasn't a sharp shooter in HS either. He's white and - TheWildcat STL - 11/8 14:15:00
                              The coaches chart shooting in practice he was money there - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/8 14:24:59
                                   That staff may not have known how to properly chart shots or - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:27:45
                                        He looked good in 1 minuets against kU - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/8 14:29:26
                                             1 minute of CVL per game would be perfect. maybe even 2 - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:40:24
                                                  Or 15-20 similar to his game against kU (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/8 14:46:28




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