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I don't have an opinion either way on CVL, but I wonder

Posted on: November 8, 2017 at 14:32:06 CT
LimerNick MU
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if we are just so used to seeing bad basketball that we get caught in the "Player X looks good" mentality because we are comparing them to our other below-average players.

I dunno, just excited for the new year.

Go Mizzou!
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CVL plays half court defense and doesn't make mistakes - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 13:50:49
     he's no Danny Allouche(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 11/8 15:41:44
     He has utility as a shooter but over exposing him - longtimereader MU - 11/8 15:19:07
     Under KA, he wasn't a good defender or shooter. Maybe that - zounami MU - 11/8 14:46:10
     if he starts or plays 15 minutes per game it will clown all - Jeff85 MU - 11/8 14:45:10
          Do you think CVL will start or get 15 mpg? - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 15:31:26
          Let's talk when the season is over... - Downstate UI - 11/8 14:51:23
               that's why I said if - Jeff85 MU - 11/8 14:53:46
                    15 minutes per game? with this roster? - GapDaddy MU - 11/8 15:15:46
                         He played about 10 min vs ku for what it's worth - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:19:01
                              poster suggested averaging 15 mpg. - GapDaddy MU - 11/8 15:25:29
                                   Right, and CVL still played 9 or 10 minutes with 12 guys - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:30:53
     In two days, we will all know, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 11/8 14:45:04
     In Cuonzo I Trust! - tiger4real MU - 11/8 14:42:57
     No idea where the idea CVL is good on defense came from - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 14:31:03
     it's not that he's making mistakes. it's that he's slow and - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:12:52
          If CVL defends more than a couple consecutive possesions... - GapDaddy MU - 11/8 14:15:30
               exactly. he forces his teammates into bad situations. he - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:19:36
               I don't see it. he's not a good athlete but he is effective - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 14:17:49
                    he's not effective on defense. at all. (nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:20:20
                         Cuonzo knows a lot more about defense than you(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 14:21:19
                              that's certainly my hope. i trust he knows a bad defender - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:24:31
                              You can't teach quickness - catbirdseat MU - 11/8 14:23:08
                                   i can sit a used pleather recliner on the court and have it - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:26:57
                                        CVL vs Josh Kroenke who ya got?(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:29:45
                                             on the bench? both. (nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:32:08
                                                  No, which would you rather have on the floor - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:35:46
                                                       ugh. don't make me. i don't wanna (nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:37:51
                                             Kroenke had 2 knee surgeries at MU (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:31:29
                                                  ok(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:34:50
                                                       Just saying you are comparing someone who is healthy - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:35:43
                                                            Don't care(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:36:28
                                                                 Who you got, Jevon Crudup or Chris Lindley? (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:38:03
                                                                      always brings up ku because he is a - Jeff85 MU - 11/8 14:47:21
                                                                      Not relevant to this thread, stay on topic(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:40:58
                                                                      depends. how many feet does lindley have in this scenario?(nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:38:49
                                                                           1. But the one he has is dead (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:40:44
                                                                                Leave it to you to bring up some random beaker(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:42:15
                                                                                     He never played for ku, was Jevon's teammate (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:45:00
                                                                                          I wish I could say cool story bro, but I can't(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 14:50:32
                                                                                          shhhh. let it go. it's ok. it's oooooo kaaaaay (nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:49:55
                                   Chris Kramer didn't have any quickness - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 14:25:48
                                        LOL. Chris Kramer averaged over 2 steals per game to go with - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:30:58
                                             He actually played 20+ mintues a game and - catbirdseat MU - 11/8 14:34:34
                                                  mind = bottled (nm) - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:35:37
                                        LOL - catbirdseat MU - 11/8 14:28:06
                         Not that I blame anyone, but it's like they haven't been - TheWildcat STL - 11/8 14:20:48
                              bottles the mind. i really never thought i'd see a day where - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:22:43
                                   I don't have an opinion either way on CVL, but I wonder - LimerNick MU - 11/8 14:32:06
                                        could be. there's also a little "great white hope" going on - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:35:02
                                             BINGO(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/8 14:37:24
     Vanleer's main limitation was his role - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:53:57
          answer this - Bangin3s MU - 11/8 14:36:12
               Nobody, we haven't had an avg defender in the backcourt - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:57:45
                    RE: Nobody, we haven't had an avg defender in the backcourt - catbirdseat MU - 11/8 15:16:04
          Correct, last year we had no inside presense - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 13:57:49
          he Didn’t stand stationary against kU - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/8 13:56:03
               And perhaps he was a sophomore who wasn't ready playing on - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:26:00
               Right, he is in a new offense now. Will be interesting - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:58:05
                    Championship teams - catbirdseat MU - 11/8 14:00:22
                         We have more scholarship players I believe than - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:01:59
                              We have a distracting amount of depth(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 14:02:49
                                   Agree. Even assuming we get it down to a 9 or 10 man - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:04:54
     He doesn't make mistakes and he doesn't produce positives. - TheWildcat STL - 11/8 13:51:43
          He can make open shots - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 13:55:34
               What is he? 32% from 3?(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/8 13:58:04
                    Phillips is the better shooter - BOILERTIGER MU - 11/8 13:59:02
                         Phillips is also a much better passer - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 14:40:47
               If they kept a stat for most shots hitting only the - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:57:40
                    More than a mischaracterization. It's not bordering on an .. - GapDaddy MU - 11/8 14:13:40
                         He wasn't a sharp shooter in HS either. He's white and - TheWildcat STL - 11/8 14:15:00
                              The coaches chart shooting in practice he was money there - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/8 14:24:59
                                   That staff may not have known how to properly chart shots or - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:27:45
                                        He looked good in 1 minuets against kU - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/8 14:29:26
                                             1 minute of CVL per game would be perfect. maybe even 2 - phrejd MU - 11/8 14:40:24
                                                  Or 15-20 similar to his game against kU (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/8 14:46:28




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