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Posted on: June 16, 2017 at 16:25:17 CT
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ky" that Martin had a relationship with the Porters.

In reality, most of the coaches we were realistically going to hire were going to get him.

So if basically any of our realistic options would have gotten us the Porters were we really "massively lucky"? I say no. And thus, out of our realistic options we would still be in a similar situation as we are today; a quick rebuild.
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is this is a widely accepted opinion? - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 14:53:59
     They would have come for a lot of coaches, but not for - alwaysright MU - 6/17 17:35:58
     After Romar was fired, yeah - Cosmo MU - 6/17 12:22:00
          Romar was fired because the Porters left, not the other way - zounami MU - 6/17 15:11:59
               no matter how many times you write it you are still - Jeff85 MU - 6/18 04:13:54
                    you're wrong (nm) - zounami MU - 6/18 12:37:50
                    you would think so, but the timeline of events - alwaysright MU - 6/18 07:04:08
               link to that? - Cosmo MU - 6/17 15:22:46
                    The evidence is that it was originally reported that UW was - zounami MU - 6/17 15:51:45
                         oh (nm) - Cosmo MU - 6/17 17:13:58
     I believe that to be true - dttiger MU - 6/17 08:45:28
     Nope, just a few 'clingers' truly believe that BS - MoGold MU - 6/16 22:49:19
          I'm not sure you understand Mizzmi's post (nm) - Cosmo MU - 6/17 13:06:40
          "clingers"? Clinging to what? - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 22:55:20
               ^^^^True Son Alert! (nm) - Evenflow MU - 6/16 22:59:42
                    KA was so bad he made "true son" a derogatory term... - zounami MU - 6/17 15:11:29
                         That is a good point - quicksand MU - 6/18 16:46:16
                              True, that's what it means with respect to coaches. I gave - zounami MU - 6/18 18:29:35
                    you got me - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 23:14:43
     No(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 6/16 20:30:04
     Yes - Sterk paid a million and they needed a place to go - alstl MU - 6/16 18:56:41
     Kim Anderson will do fine at Pittsburg State - El Zorro MU - 6/16 18:15:33
          I'm not seeing how anyone thinks this is about Kim - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 22:53:43
               90 and Zounami tried to make it about themselves and Kim - Uncle John MU - 6/17 10:03:47
                    Every - Gary P. MU - 6/17 10:25:26
                         He's destroyed the board for many of us - MakeShift MU - 6/18 09:36:10
                              "many of us" = you, gary, and 2 or 3 other crybabies who - zounami MU - 6/18 12:37:21
                         5003 and counting... - zounami MU - 6/17 14:51:24
          No he was turnin'n it around & would win 20 games by '42.. - tigertix MU - 6/16 18:45:05
     DADGUM RIGHT!!!1 ANDERSON WOULD BE COACHING THE PORTERS!1 - Mothball MU - 6/16 18:00:24
     LOL No. Dont know wher Mizzme is getting her info - Kazoo MU - 6/16 16:30:37
          You didn't read my post - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 16:34:21
     probably had to give Dad the job, and it didn't hurt that - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 6/16 16:11:24
          That must have been an interesting conversation - quicksand MU - 6/18 16:57:28
               LOL (nm) - zounami MU - 6/18 18:30:53
          THANK DADGUM GOD WE FINALLY RECOVERED FROM 23 WINS WITH 8!11 - Mothball MU - 6/16 18:01:48
          Cuonzo probably doesn't know what Kim looks like, much less - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 16:13:19
               Cuonzo had probably never even heard of KA. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/16 16:22:50
                    He probably asked why his office has an old man smell - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 16:33:55
                         He probabably asked - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 6/16 21:05:24
     Only the Porters know if they would have come back to KA - MU-TULSA MU - 6/16 15:45:30
          That's not even the question. The Porters already rejected - zounami MU - 6/16 15:49:56
     It required MU to try in men's basketball - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 15:39:16
          True, but once the program had gotten to 8 wins per season - zounami MU - 6/16 15:42:05
               IMO more important in the decision than hiring Martin was - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 15:45:47
                    We tried to hire Porter when KA was head coach, but the - zounami MU - 6/16 15:48:34
                         Right, we weren't trying then. We couldn't even get any - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 15:51:06
                              They would not have returned if we had hired someone who - zounami MU - 6/16 15:52:53
                                   The kids might not have played for MU - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 15:56:50
                                        The family already proved they were willing to separate... - zounami MU - 6/16 16:00:24
                                             No, they wanted to come back to Columbia. Just had - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 16:04:03
                                                  Yes, they wanted to come back for an *established* coach... - zounami MU - 6/16 16:07:44
                                                       I guess the key distinction here is who is 'they' - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 16:11:31
                                                            "they" = MPS, MPJ, Jontay... All 3 of them needed to feel - zounami MU - 6/16 16:15:03
                                                                 You two should check out the TBIM function or just - Gary P. MU - 6/17 07:22:29
                                                                      5004 and counting... - zounami MU - 6/17 14:53:42
                                                                 MPS was coming back to work for MU. The whole family - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 16:32:12
     There's a good chance that's true. As long as the - Supreme Tiger - 6/16 15:34:06
          "as long as the relationship seems workable" is changing - zounami MU - 6/16 15:36:51
               and essentially the very essence of my point here (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:55:47
                    No, you claimed we were miraculously lucky Martin had - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 16:28:45
                         Name another P6 coach who probably would have taken the - zounami MU - 6/16 16:33:22
                              On Crean, you do realize IU was in Porters top 5? - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 16:38:00
                                   I mentioned Crean because I think he was probably... - zounami MU - 6/16 16:41:15
                                        A number of those guys likely would have - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 16:43:53
                                             Maybe, maybe not. It wouldn't have been "miraculously - zounami MU - 6/16 16:48:35
                    Exactly. I've seen several replies along the lines of.... - zounami MU - 6/16 16:02:41
     I wouldn't say so, it would still have to be a coach - tigersfan MU - 6/16 15:22:12
          Hard to say, because sisters are still here and hopefully - Diamond Dave MU - 6/16 15:28:07
     It's probably true to an extent - zodiac6 JC - 6/16 15:10:17
          so, Frank Haith or Bruce Weber, John Groce, Bob - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:27:12
               Bob Huggins, yes (not sure why you included him). The others - zounami MU - 6/16 16:04:33
               Bob Huggins, absolutely. - zodiac6 JC - 6/16 15:58:28
               If Sr accepts a job on staff and Pingeton is still here - Diamond Dave MU - 6/16 15:28:43
                    would sr have accepted a job with haith? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:31:27
                         I actually think Haith would have landed the Porters as long - zounami MU - 6/16 15:44:19
                         Likely, given their shared strong religious beliefs (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 15:40:49
                         Probably so. Money talks and his daughters/family - Diamond Dave MU - 6/16 15:40:45
          Oh -"any established name" uh - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:20:31
               If you think Cuonzo Martin is the ONLY way that - alwaysright MU - 6/17 17:37:40
                    That's not what he said. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/17 17:43:05
                         It's what he's suggesting. - alwaysright MU - 6/18 07:04:47
          "Any *established* name" is probably correct, but that's not - zounami MU - 6/16 15:11:44
               Yes it was, but whatever. You probably argue about politics - Uncle John MU - 6/16 15:17:13
               Which targeted coach would not have landed the Porters - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 15:16:43
                    Considering he had Cuonzo ranked at the bottom of who Sterk - Uncle John MU - 6/16 15:29:03
                         Cuonzo was in my top 10 list of candidates.... - zounami MU - 6/16 15:30:25
                    now it's just targeted coaches? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:27:45
                         Yes, that's who I was referring to. - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 16:19:05
                    The candidates Sterk targeted were all established coaches, - zounami MU - 6/16 15:22:19
                         Pretty vastly different statement, yup (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:28:07
                              Well yes, I did not mean that had we hired one of our - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 16:17:53
                                   In that case, I agree with what you meant to say. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/16 16:21:59
               I assume that's the intent if not exactly what he said. - zodiac6 JC - 6/16 15:13:50
     they wanted to be in Columbia and giving their dad a job - Jeff85 MU - 6/16 15:03:01
          They proved they were willing to play elsewhere when they - zounami MU - 6/16 15:07:39
               They left MU only because we were god awful, and they left - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 15:21:39
                    and did both Martin and Romar have relationships - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:26:05
                         What was Martin's relationship with the Porters? - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 16:14:21
                              I'll answer. Sterk made it clear he was willing spend big $$ - zounami MU - 6/16 16:20:05
                                   I said it in response to 90 saying we were "miraculously luc - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 16:25:17
                                        We were absolutely lucky to get Cuonzo Martin... - zounami MU - 6/16 16:27:35
                                             I think Sterk would have hired a competent, well liked coach - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 16:32:26
               BINGO (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:21:13
     I don't agree with it. The Porters clearly have standards... - zounami MU - 6/16 14:57:44
          Yeah, Romar was a good one...(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 15:14:25
               hmmmm...did the porters have a relationship with - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:21:55
                    Jesus Christ - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 16:03:52
               Most of his seasons were pretty good until the year after - zounami MU - 6/16 15:16:54
                    Is less than 20 wins "pretty good"? And does 43% count as "m - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 15:19:35
                         He was .500 or better in the Pac-12 for 7 out of the 8 - zounami MU - 6/16 15:27:35
                              You have a lot lower standards than I thought you did(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 6/16 16:03:18
                                   If Romar had been MU's coach, with that resume, then I would - zounami MU - 6/16 16:12:28
                              not worse than Martins (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:28:48
          Sterk wasn't bringing in a nobody.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 6/16 15:00:49
               That's true, but what does it have to do with the - zounami MU - 6/16 15:02:25
                    Everything and that's what the post 90 linked was saying.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 6/16 15:05:44
                         No, it's saying the Porter acquisition had little/nothing to - zounami MU - 6/16 15:10:49
                              They were close with Crean as well.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 6/16 15:17:43
                                   so Martin and Crean could have gotten the porters - - 90Tiger MU - 6/16 15:22:53




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