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Why does discussion of this upset you so? I would love to
Posted on: July 24, 2025 at 18:13:38 CT
JeffB MU
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hear a thoughtful response from you about what you think of the various stories that have come out in the ne news.
Not all that long ago I would have thought instances of child abuse were relatively rare and the perpetrators were lone wolves with mental issues. But from news accounts over quite a few years now, we're seeing this problem is far more widespread than ever expected. We are also seeing that high level politicians, government intelligence agencies, Hollywood moguls and movers and shakers from around the world are not only aware of it, not shocked by it, and in many cases seem to be involved, and know that many others are involved. Worse yet, there are exceptionally rich and powerful people who procure victims for them, and the abuses seem to go on for years, sometimes many years, before the tragedy ever comes to public light... and then typically, one or two scapegoats take the fall, and even then they may get sweetheart deals that hardly fit the crimes, and the vast majority of the movers and shakers and politicians and power brokers can go about their lives as if nothing happened, as far as we can tell. Of course they may be dealing with blackmail behind the scenes, but no public punishment seems to have occurred.
What about the hundreds of alleged victims that are speaking out?
Here's Ian Carrol discussing this a bit: https://youtu.be/lMkpiXpXbFA
There was also the crazy pre-Epstein, Boy's Town scandal where a high level banker, rising star in the Republican Party, like Epstein, was recruiting children as sex toys for the rich and powerful of the world. In that case, however, it was boys who were being abused. Like Epstein, he was involved in a financial scandal that collapsed the bank he was working for as well. Also like Epstein, witnesses were killed, in this case a Senator from Nebraska. Most strikingly was the similarity of the coverup of blatant crimes by powerful people. You can see a documentary here:
https://youtu.be/wGz130lPm-A
I would like to hear your explanation as to why you are so sensitive about others even discussing this case?
If this were Obama in the presidency, or Clinton, or Biden, and there seemed to be some evidence that they were good friends with Epstein for a while and partied with him (actually, Clinton looks more likely to have participated in the sex parties than Trump), I would guess that you would be all over this story.
The abrupt about face is suspicious, don't you think?
Do you really think that There is nothing to see here? There is no evidence of any criminal wrongdoing by anyone other than Epstein & Maxwell? No suspicions of blackmail?
Again, a rational, logical explanation of your thoughts on it all would be most appreciated.
Edited by JeffB at 18:19:31 on 07/24/25
Not all that long ago I would have thought instances of child abuse were relatively rare and the perpetrators were lone wolves with mental issues. But from news accounts over quite a few years now, we're seeing this problem is far more widespread than ever expected. We are also seeing that high level politicians, government intelligence agencies, Hollywood moguls and movers and shakers from around the world are not only aware of it, not shocked by it, and in many cases seem to be involved, and know that many others are involved. Worse yet, there are exceptionally rich and powerful people who procure victims for them, and the abuses seem to go on for years, sometimes many years, before the tragedy ever comes to public light... and then typically, one or two scapegoats take the fall, and even then they may get sweetheart deals that hardly fit the crimes, and the vast majority of the movers and shakers and politicians and power brokers can go about their lives as if nothing happened, as far as we can tell. Of course they may be dealing with blackmail behind the scenes, but no public punishment seems to have occurred.
What about the hundreds of alleged victims that are speaking out?
Here's Ian Carrol discussing this a bit: https://youtu.be/lMkpiXpXbFA
There was also the crazy pre-Epstein, Boy's Town scandal where a high level banker, rising star in the Republican Party, like Epstein, was recruiting children as sex toys for the rich and powerful of the world. In that case, however, it was boys who were being abused. Like Epstein, he was involved in a financial scandal that collapsed the bank he was working for as well. Also like Epstein, witnesses were killed, in this case a Senator from Nebraska. Most strikingly was the similarity of the coverup of blatant crimes by powerful people. You can see a documentary here:
https://youtu.be/wGz130lPm-A
I would like to hear your explanation as to why you are so sensitive about others even discussing this case?
If this were Obama in the presidency, or Clinton, or Biden, and there seemed to be some evidence that they were good friends with Epstein for a while and partied with him (actually, Clinton looks more likely to have participated in the sex parties than Trump), I would guess that you would be all over this story.
The abrupt about face is suspicious, don't you think?
Do you really think that There is nothing to see here? There is no evidence of any criminal wrongdoing by anyone other than Epstein & Maxwell? No suspicions of blackmail?
Again, a rational, logical explanation of your thoughts on it all would be most appreciated.
Edited by JeffB at 18:19:31 on 07/24/25
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Why does discussion of this upset you so? I would love to - JeffB MU - 7/24 18:13:38