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Posted on: May 26, 2025 at 20:38:50 CT
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military, serving two masters.

For what kind of war would we not be fit and ready, despite our inferior umbers, we who willingly submit to the sword, if it were not for the fact that according to our rule of life we are given the freedom to be killed rather than to kill?”
TERTULIAN, APOLOGY 37.4-5.

The Lord, by taking away Peter’s sword, disarmed every soldier thereafter.”
TERTULIAN, ON IDOLATRY 19.1-3

For when we, so large a number as we are, have learned from His teachings and His laws that it is not right to repay evil for evil; that it is better to suffer wrong than be its cause, to pour forth one’s own blood rather than to stain our hands and conscience with the blood of another.”
ARNOBIUS OF SICCA, AGAINST THE PAGANS 1.6.1-3

It is not right for those who are striving to stay om the path of virtue to become associated with this kind of wholesale slaughter or to take part in it. For when God forbids killing, he is not only ordering us to avoid armed robbery, which is contrary even to public law, but he is forbidding what men regard as ethical. Thus, it is not right for a just man to serve in the army since justice itself is his form of service. Nor is it right for a just man to charge someone with a capital crime. It does not matter where you kill a man with the sword or with a word since it is killing itself that is prohibited. And so there must be no exception to this command of God. Killing a human being whom God willed to be a sacred creature, is always wrong.
LACTANTIUS, DIVINE INSTITUTES 6.20.15-17

And that it did so come to pass, we can convince you. For from Jerusalem there went out into the world, men, twelve in number, and these illiterate, of no ability in speaking: but by the power of God they proclaimed to every race of men that they were sent by Christ to teach to all the word of God; and we who formerly used to murder one another do not only now refrain from making war upon our enemies, but also that we may not lie nor deceive our examiners, willingly die confessing Christ.”
(JUSTIN MARTYR 1 APOLOGY 39)
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     RE: “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his - sarasotatiger MU - 5/26 21:19:53
          It is not out of context (nm) - Spanky KU - 5/26 23:13:40
               lay down his life on behalf of his government? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/27 06:11:58
                    For his friends - Spanky KU - 5/27 11:10:05
     I don’t think that includes invading foreign nations.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/26 19:01:24
          You don’t too goodly read - Spanky KU - 5/26 20:08:26
               RE: You don’t too goodly read - sarasotatiger MU - 5/26 21:23:16
                    I will use small words - Spanky KU - 5/26 22:01:47
               Why would I? I don’t believe killing people is in line - TigerMatt STL - 5/26 20:20:41
                    ^^^ still doesn’t understand the OP^^^ nm - Spanky KU - 5/26 20:26:51
                         So? Putting on the uniform is joining allegiance to the - TigerMatt STL - 5/26 20:38:50
                              RE: So? Putting on the uniform is joining allegiance to the - sarasotatiger MU - 5/26 21:26:31
                              Wave the white flag and admit you is dumb - Spanky KU - 5/26 20:57:13
                                   Sigh… - TigerMatt STL - 5/26 21:05:30
                                        Yes. Sigh. You show you know nothing about anything - Spanky KU - 5/26 21:11:30
                                             You already stated what Memorial Day is about rebuking - TigerMatt STL - 5/26 21:24:55
                                                  It is about honoring those that fit this: - Spanky KU - 5/27 11:08:34
          You mean as God commanded the Children of Israel - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/26 19:03:41
               RE: You mean as God commanded the Children of Israel - sarasotatiger MU - 5/26 21:27:40
               Yes, like when God told them to fight Aram so they'd be - CulturedDan MU - 5/26 19:19:32
               So God blessed Nebuchadnezzar over them? - El-ahrairah BAMA - 5/26 19:11:46
               Funny how all the nations of that time made the same claims. - TigerMatt STL - 5/26 19:08:40
                    Many false gods and followers of false gods make - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/26 19:15:31
                         And God abandoned them for Gentiles - El-ahrairah BAMA - 5/26 19:23:03
                              Read the Gospels too - CulturedDan MU - 5/26 19:48:20
                         Or how Judah couldn’t drive out the plainsfolk because they - TigerMatt STL - 5/26 19:19:24




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