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Most State ID doesn’t require proof of citizenship (nm)
Posted on: July 10, 2024 at 20:53:08 CT
haeffb
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198 dems voted against making it illegal
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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7/10 20:05:40
Solution in search of a problem(nm)
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raskolnikov
MU
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7/11 09:01:47
RE: 198 dems voted against making it illegal
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THEGROVE68
MU
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7/11 01:39:27
RE: 198 dems voted against making it illegal
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sarasotatiger
MU
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7/10 22:54:27
An irrelevancy to his point.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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7/11 07:02:35
"What is Project 2025?": I haven't the slighteset clue, but
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BH O'bonga
MU
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7/11 05:37:08
You ever notice how JG disappears at times
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OntheMark
MU
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7/10 22:45:44
LOL. all honest posters know I am not , never been, never
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JG
A
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7/10 22:49:45
4 lies(nm)
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Panthera
MU
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7/11 06:07:26
That whole "save the democracy " is what we thought it was..
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Outsider
MU
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7/10 20:26:38
Can't. Middle of the road, social liberal
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 20:32:22
and the bull$hit about "the end of democracy" - just so
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:14:17
it's already illegal for non-citizens to vote
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 20:08:41
no it isn't. Check Arizona laws, Ferg. Go ahead.
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:16:12
it's a political stunt
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 20:22:20
You abandoned the, "it's already illegal" BS, for
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hokie
VT
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7/11 07:05:59
Jose Luiz Gonzalez.
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Logan
BAMA
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7/10 21:52:00
Ask Bob Dornan about that
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Spanky
KU
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7/10 21:02:13
I have no idea who that is and what he
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:04:40
Google is too hard for some people(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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7/10 21:11:27
I thought you would provide some contect
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:12:50
Bob Dornan
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Spanky
KU
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7/10 21:27:01
Never heard of him
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 22:29:33
RE: Never heard of him
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Spanky
KU
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7/10 22:54:56
false - it adds teeth (by way of requiring ID/verification)
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:40:04
What's the logic, or lack thereof, behind the stunt?
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 20:36:16
the stunt is to perpetuate
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:07:32
That's the stunt in introducing the legislation
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 21:09:00
why would someone support legislation that outlaws
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:14:55
here, look at what the law actually is, ferg
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:18:25
Folks supported "hate crime" legislation....those were
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 21:16:53
so you're justifying adding an unnecessary law
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:44:11
see below(nm)
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 21:46:27
all I see below is about 10,000 posts by
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 22:01:52
it's amazing how easily you don't read and yet still
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 22:08:08
kind of like the anti-lynching law
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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7/10 21:16:29
Hate Crimes!! (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:36:21
another good example of a law that is unnecesary
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:37:56
no, the law you still haven't read isn't redundant to the
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:38:31
personally, I don't like adding laws for problems
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:42:39
RE: personally, I don't like adding laws for problems
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:51:19
RE: personally, I don't like adding laws for problems
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:59:10
LIKE I SAID EARLIER - there IS evidence, you just don't
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 22:03:19
RE: personally, I don't like adding laws for problems
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:58:39
RE: personally, I don't like adding laws for problems
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 22:03:33
why do you refuse to educate yourself?
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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7/10 21:45:14
why can't you provide evidence there's a problem?
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:52:04
RE: why can't you provide evidence there's a problem?
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:52:30
RE: why can't you provide evidence there's a problem?
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:58:26
RE: why can't you provide evidence there's a problem?
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 22:02:42
he disagrees that any non-citizen voting happens beyond
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:50:21
yet you can't provide evidence to counter this
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:52:53
RE: yet you can't provide evidence to counter this
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 22:01:08
RE: yet you can't provide evidence to counter this
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:55:06
I was thinking of that very example before you just posted
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:21:59
Or, and I'm just spit-balling here....it's an attempt to
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 21:25:25
agree, his answer makes zero sense(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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7/10 21:13:07
I’m patiently waiting for Ferg’s answer here(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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7/10 20:50:21
See below....it may be the "requirements" to establish
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 20:52:19
Poll taxes are unconstitutional
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 20:55:37
legal ballot harvesting - this issue isn't about non-citizen
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:04:10
You are beyond help if you are saying there wasn't a single
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Outsider
MU
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7/10 20:29:48
I'm sure there was at least one
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 20:31:53
Its more than jus one...
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Outsider
MU
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7/10 20:43:31
From article 90T posted below
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 20:54:04
And that is a mixture of red and blue states(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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7/10 20:56:00
what are the numbers from all the other states? (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:58:38
Those numbers are noncitizen
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 21:02:41
nothing! it's to the benefit of the political operative help
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:09:04
No idea
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meatiger
MU
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7/10 21:01:04
voter fraud doesnt exist if you dont look for it
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Leader_of_the_bandwagon
MU
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7/10 20:47:27
voter fraud exists but it's not widespread
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 20:55:37
You have no way of knowing that. You expect to see exact
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Outsider
MU
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7/10 21:01:30
every election there are a few individuals that
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:11:20
Dude, why does anyone commit a crime? They know they will
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Outsider
MU
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7/10 21:18:38
sigh
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:15:36
What’s the benefit to the operative?
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 21:31:24
Ballot harvesting is no longer legal most places
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:37:25
do you think "ballot harvesting" happens? is it "widespread"
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:00:14
how.do.you.know? (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:59:02
because there is no evidence to support this
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:08:45
there is no evidence you accept, ferg (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:09:38
what evidence have you provided? I asked you a name
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 21:25:11
RE: what evidence have you provided? I asked you a name
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:52:49
You have provided none
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meatiger
MU
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7/10 21:17:20
RE: You have provided none
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:52:56
lol, right. if you try to audit, you're suppressing the vot
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:51:08
Here is a summary of the new law and why I disagree that
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:38:24
how can you know that any more than i can know there
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:36:27
Fine. Jail. Deportation.
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 20:25:50
RE: Fine. Jail. Deportation.
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patriot
MU
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7/10 20:31:51
I'd put Stephen Miller in the camp(nm)
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 20:34:12
RE: I'd put Stephen Miller in the camp(nm)
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patriot
MU
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7/10 20:36:48
Yeah, that's it(nm)
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 20:37:45
RE: Yeah, that's it(nm)
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patriot
MU
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7/10 20:41:21
Most likely, charge them $10k and send them back in(nm)
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 20:42:44
We can deport 11 million people easily
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meatiger
MU
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7/10 20:42:33
RE: We can deport 11 million people easily
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patriot
MU
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7/10 20:50:18
There is no way to completely close the border
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meatiger
MU
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7/10 20:53:13
you don't want anyone prohibited at all - so don't
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:55:56
I think if you let them in easier
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meatiger
MU
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7/10 20:58:14
Mexico did nothing to stop them coming through, they
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:52:50
we let them in easily (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:44:14
That is a mostly passive process
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meatiger
MU
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7/10 20:48:39
i know, meat. It was a joke. then f it, don't try. Just
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:51:55
Oh, sure, I have a list right here (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:25:18
it should be easy to find one name if this is such
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Ferg
MU
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7/10 20:30:07
i never claimed it is a "massive" problem, Ferg. I contend
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:31:01
RE: no it isn't. Check Arizona laws, Ferg. Go ahead.
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 20:20:42
It’s illegal.
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 20:19:36
Ok - I did some research. From what I can see it is
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:35:12
I have no issue
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meatiger
MU
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7/10 20:39:57
What is the law that makes it illegal everywhere? (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:24:50
The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 20:33:01
here's a summary of the new law being proposed and
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:37:39
Uh, do I get a free passport out of the deal? (nm)
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 20:50:07
sure haeff, let me guess - it's an imposition and financial
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:54:22
24th Amendment issue (nm)
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 20:59:58
it's not a "poll tax" any more than the ACA was a
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:10:29
So, you’re saying SCOTUS would strike down the law (nm)
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 21:16:57
no, I don't think SCOTUS can be trusted to execute
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:20:30
So it requires a passport
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meatiger
MU
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7/10 20:47:50
So maybe it's not a stunt vote, but a vote against junk
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 20:50:07
Most State ID doesn’t require proof of citizenship (nm)
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haeffb
MU
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7/10 20:53:08
i'd be fine with this (Florida ID requirements to get DL)
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:57:28
Can I use a death certificate? My mom would like to vote(nm)
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 21:04:18
is she a Dem in California?
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 21:10:49
No, thankfully(nm)
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 21:14:38
so fund everyone getting a passport, all good! (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:55:06
Your driver's license did....or it did when I got mine
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Mormad
MU
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7/10 20:54:42
Did you mis-link?(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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7/10 20:40:59
yeah, fixed, thanks. cookies issue. or dumb user with
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:43:28
RE: The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility
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90Tiger
STL
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7/10 20:35:41