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it's probably a question of scale

Posted on: October 5, 2022 at 11:58:00 CT
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whereas you currently have localized examples of gang-type violence in certain cities.

in the "private security force" paradigm you would have entire communities possibly at the level of cities in open warfare with each other.
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Who knew that pickle is pro-law enforcement?... - zounami MU - 10/5 11:13:09
     One thing we do know - meatiger MU - 10/5 13:21:52
     pickle has never opposed punishment for the violation - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:17:28
          Thank you, Mrs. pickle. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/5 11:59:17
               it's uncanny... like they're DHs (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 12:16:22
               grow up and engage in mature discussion for once. Do - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 12:01:54
          in his utopia, how is the law enforced? (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 11:40:25
               By non-monopolized law enforcement. - dangertim MU - 10/5 11:46:41
                    Lol. Like private police can't be bought. - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/5 12:07:58
                         why are you opposed to capitalism and the free market? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/5 12:16:19
                              I'm opposed to anarchy and unequal "justice" - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/5 12:23:25
                                   no, you’re opposed to capitalism and the free market (nm) - pickle MU - 10/5 12:40:23
                                   Exactly. And they are truly retarded. (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 12:24:19
                              because he's a socialist (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:18:14
                         "the best justice a citizen can afford" is a good way to - zounami MU - 10/5 12:15:52
                              I suppose the Pinkertons did good work for those who - MUTGR OU - 10/5 12:20:04
                    I didn't ask "what", I asked "how" (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 11:49:06
                         he answered how, dummy (nm) - pickle MU - 10/5 11:58:03
                              nope, not at all (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 12:15:25
                                   he did (nm) - pickle MU - 10/5 12:16:38
                                        "non-monopolized law enforcement" doesn't explain how - zounami MU - 10/5 12:18:00
                                             how does buying a car work? - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:19:36
               lazy straw man - pickle MU - 10/5 11:43:20
                    Lazy?... You dodged the question with a non sequitur. (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 11:47:39
                         yes, lazy. using a straw man is lazy - pickle MU - 10/5 11:57:19
               By someone besides Merrick Garland and Joe Biden probably(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/5 11:43:02
               Private security, held accountable by their employers(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:41:57
                    I see. And how does the private security deal with gang- - zounami MU - 10/5 11:42:59
                         warlord justice, open warfare(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/5 11:47:25
                              Private security isnt warfare. Do you believe individuals - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:49:15
                                   I'm saying that's what it would likely devolve to - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/5 11:51:25
                                        how is that different from today? (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:20:45
                                             the scale would be much larger(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/5 12:22:43
                                                  The USA is the largest warlord in history (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:23:24
                                                       talk about a straw man (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 12:30:52
                                                            that’s not a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 10/5 12:40:44
                                                                 yes it is (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 13:10:29
                                                                      lol no (nm) - pickle MU - 10/5 13:24:25
                                                                      do you not understand what a straw man is? (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 13:13:00
                                                                           "To give the impression of refuting an argument, whereas the - zounami MU - 10/5 13:17:57
                                                                                it directly refuted it. you just don't understand what a - ashtray UF - 10/5 14:21:05
                                                       That's probably true - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/5 12:27:36
                                                            it is the topic at hand - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:30:23
                                        Expirements play out everyday... - MUTGR OU - 10/5 12:07:58
                                        It's a fantasy that only children would believe is viable. (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 11:53:46
                                             It's probably possible in high trust societies that have a - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/5 11:59:24
                                                  I'll agree with that. (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 12:17:16
                                        What do cops do to prevent that now? How would private - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:52:28
                                             it's probably a question of scale - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/5 11:58:00
                                                  private security would execute the wishes of their employer - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:22:57
                                                       And who polices the private security forces?.. Can they kill - zounami MU - 10/5 12:29:44
                                                            run through a thought experiment where in 2015 St. Louis - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/5 12:39:44
                                                                 good point (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 13:09:56
                                                            you don't have much confidence in capitalism, do you? (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:31:02
                                                                 he’s a fascist (nm) - pickle MU - 10/5 12:56:57
                                                                 For most sectors of the economy, yes... but some public - zounami MU - 10/5 12:34:00
                                                                      so you like a mix between socialism and capitalism? (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:43:05
                                                                           yes, a hybrid system of mostly capitalism (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 13:08:50
                                                                                ok, libtard (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 13:13:16
                                                                                     I'm a pragmatic utilitarian. (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 13:16:16
                                                                                          no, you’re a fascist - pickle MU - 10/5 13:31:02
                                                  Why would they be at war with each other? Are private - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 12:00:52
                                                       why have humans been at war historically? - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/5 12:04:50
                                                            Why do certain stores have a private security guard?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 12:05:52
                                                                 for security?(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/5 12:08:05
                                                                      and to war with other stores? (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:24:02
                                                                      correct, because cops dont protect property or human - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 12:08:44
                                             The threat of police response, government prosecution... - zounami MU - 10/5 11:54:28
                                                  obviously not (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:24:49
                                                       The crime rate would be much higher without such a - zounami MU - 10/5 12:28:06
                                                            that deterrent wouldn't be any less with privatized police (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:29:36
                                                                 yeah, that rent-a-cop sure would deter violent criminals (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 12:30:26
                                                                      is that an argument? (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:55:44
                                                  lol, deter most "criminals"? If they are deterred they - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:55:51
                                                       would-be criminals... damn you are obtuse (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 11:56:46
                                   Then explain how they would protect citizens, specifically (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 11:50:32
                                        By standing a post. Why is this difficult for you(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:51:19
                                             "standing a post"?... lol, so a retirement community... - zounami MU - 10/5 11:55:54
                                                  the retirement community can decide that for themselves - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:25:48
                                                       what if they're living on fixed income and a small budget... - zounami MU - 10/5 12:27:03
                                                            sounds like a good market opportunity - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:28:58
                                                  Private security. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:56:24
                                                       Who pays for it?... Are they armed?... And how would they - zounami MU - 10/5 11:57:43
                                                            They dont have to respond, they are actually there, on site - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:59:24
                                                                 "people pay for it"... "they have guns if they're paid to" - zounami MU - 10/5 12:14:42
                                                                      Cops dont prevent crime, they respond to crime(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 12:52:34
                         Better than cops do. See, cops dont actually prevent crime, - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:45:24
                              How?... You didn't answer the question. (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 11:48:46
                                   Private security and the right of self defense. Police dont - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:50:35
                                        We already have a 2nd amendment and right to self-defense... - zounami MU - 10/5 11:53:14
                                             lol, retirement communities have.......wait for it..... - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:54:43
                                                  wow, you're retarded... you really think all retirement - zounami MU - 10/5 11:58:30
                                                       Im in them all the time on business and many have a - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 12:02:59
                         Better than the cops did in 2020 - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/5 11:44:06
                              Are you serious? Dem politicians prevented cops from - zounami MU - 10/5 11:50:00
                                   lol (nm) - pickle MU - 10/5 12:02:27
                                        why do you think cops are quitting / retiring in record - zounami MU - 10/5 12:12:12
                                   Lol. Now cops are controlled by democrats - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/5 11:56:20
                                        and yes, if you followed the news you would know that - zounami MU - 10/5 12:00:26
                                        hefe is a libtard, like you (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 11:58:51
                                             you're the one supporting a libtard socialist ideology (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/5 12:57:38
                                             lol,Im the furthest thing from a lib you will ever meet(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 12:03:34
                                                  keep telling yourself that (nm) - zounami MU - 10/5 12:11:46
                                                       Im telling you that. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 12:54:12
                                        FFS, you cant make this sh*t up(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:56:48
               ...and what are the "individual rights" upon which the laws - zounami MU - 10/5 11:41:32
                    Natural rights - pickle MU - 10/5 12:01:57
                    Start by reading the Bill of Rights which are based on - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:42:49
                         The Bill of Rights limit the government, they do not protect - zounami MU - 10/5 11:45:56
                              Neither do cops. See above(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/5 11:47:02




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