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Yes. And both failed the kids. Not to mention the school

Posted on: July 18, 2022 at 12:47:13 CT
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not having secured doors. So I guess we just kiss the kids goodbye cause their ain’t no way you are ever going to have a perfect system that keeps guns out of the hands of villains and also keeps them from getting into a school.

Sounds like a plan.
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Uvalde shooter killed most children before police entered - Spanky KU - 7/18 11:35:15
     So, only a handful of kids could have been saved if the cops - hokie VT - 7/18 12:35:03
          are you ready to support the free market and capitalism - pickle MU - 7/18 12:44:35
               magic 8 ball says - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:46:42
     Complacency is pretty common - Sal CMSU - 7/18 12:08:17
          the gunman likely killed most of the victims before any - Spanky KU - 7/18 12:27:37
               some he shot were still alive - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:32:33
                    Per the Commission's report, most were dead by then - Spanky KU - 7/18 12:59:09
                         you can't know that (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 13:20:36
                         so we should just ignore the massive police failure - meatiger MU - 7/18 13:02:08
                              Why are you ignoring the root cause? - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:14:02
                                   the root cause - meatiger MU - 7/18 13:56:17
                                   lol, you're flailing man, take a break (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 13:24:45
                                   that’s not the root cause (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:18:01
                                        Doors locked = no dead kids(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:27:10
                                             shoulda taken my advice (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 13:31:36
                                                  There is no doubt that I am 100% correct. - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:38:45
                                                       you've been dismissed from the topic before for clowning - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 13:44:48
                                                            Locked doors = no dead kids(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:49:18
                                                                 you can't know that (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 13:49:51
                                                                      Yes - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:51:03
                                             birth control = no dead kids (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:30:13
                                                  You are very dumb(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:31:22
                                                       funny, because he's using your logic - ashtray UF - 7/18 13:37:56
                                                            he’s stupid - pickle MU - 7/18 13:44:21
                                                            Nope. He is using pickle 'logic" - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:39:55
                                                                 a dumb person could easily think so - ashtray UF - 7/18 13:49:23
                                             no cars = no dead kids (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:29:57
                                                  RE: no cars = no dead kids (nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:32:10
                                             no guns = no dead kids (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:29:39
                                                  RE: no guns = no dead kids (nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:32:33
                                             no school = no dead kids (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:29:18
                                                  RE: no school = no dead kids (nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:32:48
     He entered the building 3 minutes before the first cops show - shorty MU - 7/18 12:06:34
          No he didn't - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:12:32
               "show up on the video" (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:37:44
     Is this an excuse for the cops to sit outside while he kills - El-ahrairah BAMA - 7/18 12:01:15
     you do a lot of pontificating for someone who isn't keeping - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 11:54:31
     Killer was nicknamed school shooter a YEAR before - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/18 11:54:00
     That’s exactly what you see in the video… - Outsider MU - 7/18 11:51:38
          The response time was 77 minutes - El-ahrairah BAMA - 7/18 12:07:03
               They were in the school (responded) within just a few - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:08:24
                    responded and retreated (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:12:06
                    They quickly ran outside and started arresting parents(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 7/18 12:09:49
                         400 cops on the scene and little kids getting their - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:13:38
                              Would have been nice if those teachers… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:17:10
                                   Be even better - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:18:34
                                        Sure because our systems are always perfect. (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:22:01
                                   Yep, waiting for the cops isn’t a solution - El-ahrairah BAMA - 7/18 12:18:32
     socialism always fails (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 11:44:17
     Operative word: "most." In other words, cops doing their - *M* KC - 7/18 11:39:10
          In this case, they could only have saved a few people… - Outsider MU - 7/18 11:53:48
               But by all means... let's vilify the cops(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 11:59:57
                    lazy gvmt “workers” - pickle MU - 7/18 12:07:47
                    Are you implying I’m “vilifying” the police? (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:02:33
                         No. Agreeing with you(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 12:12:13
                         he was agreeing with you (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:04:27
                              Whew, cause that isn’t what I was doing. (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:05:53
                    they should be, jeezus spank - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:01:23
                         Here's what's going on here: - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:02:29
                              The Uvalde commission blames the teachers(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 12:24:14
                                   RE: The Uvalde commission blames the teachers(nm) - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:28:20
                              he’s a bootlicker. always will be (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 12:08:26
                              he's right though that locking the doors likely would have - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:06:06
                                   The outside door lock malfunctioned after the cop - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:08:01
                                        has it been determined that it malfunctioned? - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:11:34
                                             I'm not sure but - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:12:07
                                                  unless it is unlocked (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:12:50
                                                       If you're familiar with those doors - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:14:36
                                                            could be just like the inside doors - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:17:37
                                                                 From what i understand - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:20:08
                                                                      She can’t give a version of what happened because… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:24:15
                                                                           Uhhh the teacher in the classroom is dead - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:26:23
                                                                                No shyt the teacher in the classroom is dead… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:28:40
                                                                                     unless the cop outside shot the dude with rifles heading - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:30:31
                                                                                          But he didn’t. What about this don’t you get? (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:38:04
                                                                                               That was the major screw up - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:39:09
                                                                                                    Yes. And both failed the kids. Not to mention the school - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:47:13
                                                                                                         No system is perfect sure - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:48:48
                                                                                                              Yep, this is true. And if your only solutions are - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:51:46
                                                                                                                   and we do. Lots of them. - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:53:29
                    And teachers - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:01:17
                         What would have drastically changed the outcome… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:05:04
                              Well there's this: - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:06:56
                                   Sure that would have helped, but shooting the - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:13:19
                                        the 400 cops that got there should have done their jobs - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:15:32
                                             The dude fired off over 100 shots in the first 60 - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:21:10
                                                  Maybe they take a bullet instead of a kid - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:25:20
                                                       So a 10 year old is going to knock out a teacher? - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:31:04
                                                            Are only people that teach 10 y ear olds going to carry? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:32:37
                                                                 Should Uvalde have the right to make that decision? - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:35:14
                                                                      they have that right - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:35:48
                                                                           Then why didn’t the teachers have weapons? (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:38:53
                                                                                Have to ask the school board - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:40:21
                                                                                     Defending yourself is alt right? What about women… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:43:42
                                                                                          You're alt-right media is bad for you - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:45:26
                                                                                               And your left wing media has convinced you that - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:49:22
                                                                                                    What left wing media? My go to is basically - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:52:24
                                                                                                         Sure, but that doesn’t stop you from… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:56:03
          Teachers doing THEIR job would have saved all those lives(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 11:44:52
               isn’t their job to teach? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 11:47:45
                    Including teaching by example, no? - JeffB MU - 7/18 11:53:17
                         i doubt you’re in a position to know one way or the other (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 12:04:50
                              If one can't believe a word of the Texas House Committee Rep - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:19:34
                                   the words you’re looking for - pickle MU - 7/18 12:28:53
                                        Why can't you admit that YOU don't know, pickle? Why are - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:30:27
                                             but i don’t know, Jeff, and I’m not claiming that i do - pickle MU - 7/18 12:45:34
                                                  You were in effect saying that it is not the teachers' jobs - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:48:25
                                                       you lack reading comprehension and critical reading skills - pickle MU - 7/18 12:50:22
                                                            You are the one having difficulty following along with the - JeffB MU - 7/18 13:00:01
                                                                 no, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:02:37
                                   a politician? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:21:00
                         Since it's so easy - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:00:40
                              Following procedures, locking doors, paying attention to - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:04:37
                                   sign up to teach - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:08:38
                                        Are you really saying it’s hard to be a teacher? (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:25:51
                                             Harder than what you do - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:30:00
                                                  Give me a break. Everyone here knows a teacher or is - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:33:36
                                                       You should do it then - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:34:34
                                                            Enlighten us Hoax, quit hiding behind your rock… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:37:14
                                                                 What do you do? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:38:20
                                                                      Haha! So where is the dividing line where you will - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:41:28
                                                                           Seriously you talk sh1t but won't admit what you do? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:43:55
                                                                                Why would I tell you? Is there a job that you’d - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:53:56
                                                                                     sure - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:55:53
                                                                                          So you are making it sound like being a teacher isn’t - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:58:03
                                                                                               I'm saying people like you that belittle the profession - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 13:00:27
                                                                                                    Find a post where I have belittled what teachers do… - Outsider MU - 7/18 13:07:07
                                                                                                         You're trying to say it's not difficult - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 13:14:46
                                                                                                              Yeah, there just isn’t any other profession as hard as what - Outsider MU - 7/18 13:55:15
                                                                                                                   Again - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 14:12:26
                                        Whether it's 'cake' or not has no bearing on whether I would - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:23:15
                                             which curriculum? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:29:30
                                                  NEA = 'K-12 Cartel' for holding parents & children hostage t - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:45:54
                                                       I"m not in NEA - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:47:31
                                                            I won't do your homework for you regarding which schools - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:51:01
                                                                 There are no public schools in MO (or anywhere that I know - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:54:28
                                                                      Of course you haven't even looked for it: - JeffB MU - 7/18 13:14:27
                                                                           African Centered Studies school teaches 1619 - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 13:19:06
                                                                                What the 1619 Project Gets Wrong About Slavery and America’s - JeffB MU - 7/18 13:37:35
                                                                                     The ACSE school requires applications - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 13:45:49
                                             lol (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 12:25:25
                    ^^^^^ 23.47 years and 250k ignorant posts^^^^ - Spanky KU - 7/18 11:50:58




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