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That’s exactly what you see in the video…

Posted on: July 18, 2022 at 11:51:38 CT
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And yet you still have people who say don’t give anyone within the school a gun.

Had the police response been exactly one minute (that’s 60 seconds for those of you on the left), which would be an amazing response time, it would still have been too late.

Give people a chance to defend themselves, this just isn’t a hard concept to get.
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Uvalde shooter killed most children before police entered - Spanky KU - 7/18 11:35:15
     So, only a handful of kids could have been saved if the cops - hokie VT - 7/18 12:35:03
          are you ready to support the free market and capitalism - pickle MU - 7/18 12:44:35
               magic 8 ball says - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:46:42
     Complacency is pretty common - Sal CMSU - 7/18 12:08:17
          the gunman likely killed most of the victims before any - Spanky KU - 7/18 12:27:37
               some he shot were still alive - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:32:33
                    Per the Commission's report, most were dead by then - Spanky KU - 7/18 12:59:09
                         you can't know that (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 13:20:36
                         so we should just ignore the massive police failure - meatiger MU - 7/18 13:02:08
                              Why are you ignoring the root cause? - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:14:02
                                   the root cause - meatiger MU - 7/18 13:56:17
                                   lol, you're flailing man, take a break (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 13:24:45
                                   that’s not the root cause (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:18:01
                                        Doors locked = no dead kids(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:27:10
                                             shoulda taken my advice (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 13:31:36
                                                  There is no doubt that I am 100% correct. - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:38:45
                                                       you've been dismissed from the topic before for clowning - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 13:44:48
                                                            Locked doors = no dead kids(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:49:18
                                                                 you can't know that (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 13:49:51
                                                                      Yes - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:51:03
                                             birth control = no dead kids (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:30:13
                                                  You are very dumb(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:31:22
                                                       funny, because he's using your logic - ashtray UF - 7/18 13:37:56
                                                            he’s stupid - pickle MU - 7/18 13:44:21
                                                            Nope. He is using pickle 'logic" - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:39:55
                                                                 a dumb person could easily think so - ashtray UF - 7/18 13:49:23
                                             no cars = no dead kids (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:29:57
                                                  RE: no cars = no dead kids (nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:32:10
                                             no guns = no dead kids (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:29:39
                                                  RE: no guns = no dead kids (nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:32:33
                                             no school = no dead kids (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:29:18
                                                  RE: no school = no dead kids (nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 13:32:48
     He entered the building 3 minutes before the first cops show - shorty MU - 7/18 12:06:34
          No he didn't - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:12:32
               "show up on the video" (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:37:44
     Is this an excuse for the cops to sit outside while he kills - El-ahrairah BAMA - 7/18 12:01:15
     you do a lot of pontificating for someone who isn't keeping - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 11:54:31
     Killer was nicknamed school shooter a YEAR before - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/18 11:54:00
     That’s exactly what you see in the video… - Outsider MU - 7/18 11:51:38
          The response time was 77 minutes - El-ahrairah BAMA - 7/18 12:07:03
               They were in the school (responded) within just a few - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:08:24
                    responded and retreated (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:12:06
                    They quickly ran outside and started arresting parents(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 7/18 12:09:49
                         400 cops on the scene and little kids getting their - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:13:38
                              Would have been nice if those teachers… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:17:10
                                   Be even better - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:18:34
                                        Sure because our systems are always perfect. (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:22:01
                                   Yep, waiting for the cops isn’t a solution - El-ahrairah BAMA - 7/18 12:18:32
     socialism always fails (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 11:44:17
     Operative word: "most." In other words, cops doing their - *M* KC - 7/18 11:39:10
          In this case, they could only have saved a few people… - Outsider MU - 7/18 11:53:48
               But by all means... let's vilify the cops(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 11:59:57
                    lazy gvmt “workers” - pickle MU - 7/18 12:07:47
                    Are you implying I’m “vilifying” the police? (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:02:33
                         No. Agreeing with you(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 12:12:13
                         he was agreeing with you (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:04:27
                              Whew, cause that isn’t what I was doing. (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:05:53
                    they should be, jeezus spank - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:01:23
                         Here's what's going on here: - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:02:29
                              The Uvalde commission blames the teachers(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 12:24:14
                                   RE: The Uvalde commission blames the teachers(nm) - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:28:20
                              he’s a bootlicker. always will be (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 12:08:26
                              he's right though that locking the doors likely would have - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:06:06
                                   The outside door lock malfunctioned after the cop - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:08:01
                                        has it been determined that it malfunctioned? - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:11:34
                                             I'm not sure but - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:12:07
                                                  unless it is unlocked (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:12:50
                                                       If you're familiar with those doors - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:14:36
                                                            could be just like the inside doors - SwampTiger MU - 7/18 12:17:37
                                                                 From what i understand - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:20:08
                                                                      She can’t give a version of what happened because… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:24:15
                                                                           Uhhh the teacher in the classroom is dead - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:26:23
                                                                                No shyt the teacher in the classroom is dead… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:28:40
                                                                                     unless the cop outside shot the dude with rifles heading - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:30:31
                                                                                          But he didn’t. What about this don’t you get? (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:38:04
                                                                                               That was the major screw up - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:39:09
                                                                                                    Yes. And both failed the kids. Not to mention the school - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:47:13
                                                                                                         No system is perfect sure - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:48:48
                                                                                                              Yep, this is true. And if your only solutions are - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:51:46
                                                                                                                   and we do. Lots of them. - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:53:29
                    And teachers - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:01:17
                         What would have drastically changed the outcome… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:05:04
                              Well there's this: - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:06:56
                                   Sure that would have helped, but shooting the - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:13:19
                                        the 400 cops that got there should have done their jobs - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:15:32
                                             The dude fired off over 100 shots in the first 60 - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:21:10
                                                  Maybe they take a bullet instead of a kid - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:25:20
                                                       So a 10 year old is going to knock out a teacher? - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:31:04
                                                            Are only people that teach 10 y ear olds going to carry? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:32:37
                                                                 Should Uvalde have the right to make that decision? - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:35:14
                                                                      they have that right - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:35:48
                                                                           Then why didn’t the teachers have weapons? (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:38:53
                                                                                Have to ask the school board - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:40:21
                                                                                     Defending yourself is alt right? What about women… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:43:42
                                                                                          You're alt-right media is bad for you - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:45:26
                                                                                               And your left wing media has convinced you that - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:49:22
                                                                                                    What left wing media? My go to is basically - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:52:24
                                                                                                         Sure, but that doesn’t stop you from… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:56:03
          Teachers doing THEIR job would have saved all those lives(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 11:44:52
               isn’t their job to teach? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 11:47:45
                    Including teaching by example, no? - JeffB MU - 7/18 11:53:17
                         i doubt you’re in a position to know one way or the other (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 12:04:50
                              If one can't believe a word of the Texas House Committee Rep - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:19:34
                                   the words you’re looking for - pickle MU - 7/18 12:28:53
                                        Why can't you admit that YOU don't know, pickle? Why are - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:30:27
                                             but i don’t know, Jeff, and I’m not claiming that i do - pickle MU - 7/18 12:45:34
                                                  You were in effect saying that it is not the teachers' jobs - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:48:25
                                                       you lack reading comprehension and critical reading skills - pickle MU - 7/18 12:50:22
                                                            You are the one having difficulty following along with the - JeffB MU - 7/18 13:00:01
                                                                 no, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 13:02:37
                                   a politician? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:21:00
                         Since it's so easy - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:00:40
                              Following procedures, locking doors, paying attention to - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:04:37
                                   sign up to teach - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:08:38
                                        Are you really saying it’s hard to be a teacher? (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:25:51
                                             Harder than what you do - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:30:00
                                                  Give me a break. Everyone here knows a teacher or is - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:33:36
                                                       You should do it then - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:34:34
                                                            Enlighten us Hoax, quit hiding behind your rock… - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:37:14
                                                                 What do you do? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:38:20
                                                                      Haha! So where is the dividing line where you will - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:41:28
                                                                           Seriously you talk sh1t but won't admit what you do? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:43:55
                                                                                Why would I tell you? Is there a job that you’d - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:53:56
                                                                                     sure - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:55:53
                                                                                          So you are making it sound like being a teacher isn’t - Outsider MU - 7/18 12:58:03
                                                                                               I'm saying people like you that belittle the profession - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 13:00:27
                                                                                                    Find a post where I have belittled what teachers do… - Outsider MU - 7/18 13:07:07
                                                                                                         You're trying to say it's not difficult - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 13:14:46
                                                                                                              Yeah, there just isn’t any other profession as hard as what - Outsider MU - 7/18 13:55:15
                                                                                                                   Again - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 14:12:26
                                        Whether it's 'cake' or not has no bearing on whether I would - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:23:15
                                             which curriculum? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:29:30
                                                  NEA = 'K-12 Cartel' for holding parents & children hostage t - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:45:54
                                                       I"m not in NEA - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:47:31
                                                            I won't do your homework for you regarding which schools - JeffB MU - 7/18 12:51:01
                                                                 There are no public schools in MO (or anywhere that I know - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 12:54:28
                                                                      Of course you haven't even looked for it: - JeffB MU - 7/18 13:14:27
                                                                           African Centered Studies school teaches 1619 - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 13:19:06
                                                                                What the 1619 Project Gets Wrong About Slavery and America’s - JeffB MU - 7/18 13:37:35
                                                                                     The ACSE school requires applications - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/18 13:45:49
                                             lol (nm) - pickle MU - 7/18 12:25:25
                    ^^^^^ 23.47 years and 250k ignorant posts^^^^ - Spanky KU - 7/18 11:50:58




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