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Posted on: January 27, 2022 at 11:59:14 CT
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Leonard Hamilton was just 33, two years younger than Boynton, when the rookie head coach took over an Oklahoma State program in even worse shape — at least from an on-court standpoint — than how Boynton found it earlier this year. As of 1986, the Cowboys had wallowed in mediocrity for two decades with just one NCAA Tournament berth in the previous 22 seasons. Hamilton’s hire was the fifth coaching change since Henry Iba stepped down in 1970.

The ace recruiter known for his defensive acumen came over from Kentucky where he served one season under newly-named head coach Eddie Sutton. Hamilton was a holdover from Joe B. Hall’s Kentucky staff and the first in the storied program’s history to earn the title of “associate head coach”. But when Hall stepped down, Hamilton was not granted an interview to replace him. Kentucky went with Sutton, an established head coach at Arkansas.

Hamilton’s 1986-87 team struggled to an 8-20 finish but the 1987-88 team improved to 14-16. He flexed his recruiting muscles in Stillwater bringing in the likes of Byron Houston, Richard Dumas and even transfer Tulsa native John Starks.

In years 3 and 4 of Hamilton’s tenure, OSU went 17-13 and 17-14, making NIT appearances in each. Oklahoma State hadn’t seen back-to-back postseason action in 32 years, resulting in the board of regents offering Hamilton a three-year extension.

Hamilton complied a 56-63 start to his coaching career in Stillwater before the ace recruiter was enticed away to the orange and green-er pastures of Miami where he spent 10 seasons.
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     $12MM buyout didn't scare them at all. I'm jelly.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/27 12:19:22
          $4.8 million. - UMR85 MU - 1/27 17:03:53
          There is always a way(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 1/27 14:56:24
          He wanted out. He negotiated it down to 4.8 million (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 12:23:48
               But they made the decision before the negotation.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/27 12:26:26
          Fully committed programs come up with buyout money - Eggs MU - 1/27 12:21:23
               The amount of revenue we have lost over the last 8 yrs - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 12:27:21
                    2017-18 was the only exception - Eggs MU - 1/27 12:37:46
                         i'm going to say those 2 coaches have cost us $28M - phrejd MU - 1/27 12:43:24
                              It’s probably a false assumption that Mizzou makes - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 12:58:19
                                   show me your work - phrejd MU - 1/27 13:01:23
                                        I just think it’s a false assumption - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 13:16:23
                                             you don't know what revenue is, do you? (nm) - phrejd MU - 1/27 14:46:23
                                                  Ok your assumptions are wrong in those - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 15:01:53
                                                       what were my assumptions? (nm) - phrejd MU - 1/27 15:03:07
                                             I thought they were mindlessly profiteering off my coke(nm) - Mormad MU - 1/27 13:26:44
                                                  Mizzou has also never averaged 14k - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 13:43:52
                                                       in 2017-18 MU averaged 15,061, ranking #13 nationally. - phrejd MU - 1/27 14:45:00
                                                            That’s counting tickets sold - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 14:58:31
                                                                 tickets sold means someone paid for that ticket - phrejd MU - 1/27 15:02:51
                                                                      They aren’t there to spend $10 on concessions - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 15:19:50
                                                                           maybe you should look up the actual revenue from concessions - phrejd MU - 1/27 15:48:50
                                                                                Even if you have and that’s correct - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 15:52:20
                                                                                     ok so you're not going to look up concession sales? - phrejd MU - 1/27 16:08:12
                                                                                          No. The link you provided above said you didn’t know - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 16:11:57
                                                                                               2 links were provided - phrejd MU - 1/27 16:14:29
                                                                                                    This clearly shows you are making the $10 up - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 16:17:06
                                                                                                         again - phrejd MU - 1/27 16:21:43
                                                                                                              I don’t know what average concessions are - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 16:25:16
                                                                                                                   ok thanks for stopping by (nm) - phrejd MU - 1/27 16:33:33
                              Pretty interesting. Like anything else, it's an investment - Eggs MU - 1/27 12:49:36
                                   no they have not (nm) - phrejd MU - 1/27 14:45:21
     Chris Holtman and Andy Enfield - two no name guys - alstl MU - 1/27 10:25:18
          Agreed would like to see Johnny Orr or Billy Tubbs - tiger4real MU - 1/27 11:12:38
               RE: Agreed would like to see Johnny Orr or Billy Tubbs - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 11:53:26
               Excellent post. Only Big 8 coaches are worthy to alstl. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 1/27 11:44:03
                    There’s still 1 really good big 8 coach still in circulation - Bump834 MU - 1/27 11:51:07
                         Dave Bliss? He coached high school a few years ago.(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 1/27 14:58:34
                         Two. Kelvin and Altman. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 1/27 12:08:08
                              RE: Two. Kelvin and Altman. - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 12:11:43
                              Altman is who I was referring to - Bump834 MU - 1/27 12:09:19
                         He beat us 81-58 this season (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 11:55:32
                              It's Kelvin Sampson and we didn't play Houston this year - Eggs MU - 1/27 11:59:57
                                   Sampson, Altman, Hamilton (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 12:03:22
                                        Altman of course. That's the name who immediately - Eggs MU - 1/27 12:05:29
                                             Absolutely the best - Bump834 MU - 1/27 12:08:12
                                                  Oh yeah those days are long gone - Eggs MU - 1/27 12:13:37
                                        and lon kruger just retired last year (nm) - phrejd MU - 1/27 12:03:47
                              That’s not the one I’m thinking - Bump834 MU - 1/27 11:57:08
                                   Leonard Hamilton coached OSU from 1986 to 1990(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 11:59:56
                                        So there are 2 - Eggs MU - 1/27 12:00:37
                                             Dana Altman also (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 12:02:06
                                                  Ok would take all 3(nm) - Eggs MU - 1/27 12:06:58
                                                  Altman is who I’m thinking - Bump834 MU - 1/27 12:06:56
                         hard to believe isn't it? - phrejd MU - 1/27 11:53:26
                              It really is - Bump834 MU - 1/27 11:55:17
                                   RE: It really is - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 11:59:14
                                   if my math is right, 39 when he got the job at OU (nm) - phrejd MU - 1/27 11:57:09
                                        Kelvin wasn’t in the big 8 was he?!? - Bump834 MU - 1/27 11:58:10
                                             samson was at ou for the last 2 yrs of the Big 8 - phrejd MU - 1/27 12:01:40
                                                  Sampson at OU: - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 12:04:40
                    lol i was going to say Tubbs or Danny Nee, but he's right - phrejd MU - 1/27 11:45:08
                         Any one of those guys would love a 2 year contract - Mormad MU - 1/27 11:46:19
                              screw that. if we can get one of them i'm giving them a - phrejd MU - 1/27 11:51:30
                                   Haha. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 1/27 11:56:15
          what?(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 1/27 11:12:26
          The guy who engineered Dunk City at UFGC - Eggs MU - 1/27 10:47:07
          you can't be serious (nm) - phrejd MU - 1/27 10:42:32
          Good Lord. The Ohio State coach is a "no name"? - Lerxst MU - 1/27 10:39:43
               Not to mention USC is 64-19 since the start of the 2019-20 - Eggs MU - 1/27 10:50:18
          you need to watch more basketball(nm) - TigerA MU - 1/27 10:28:27
               Or at least read the article (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 1/27 10:48:16
     He's not getting paid enough - mu7176grad MU - 1/27 10:17:27
     Interesting the author feels they could just hire - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 09:24:19
          thought that was interesting too. i don't buy it. (nm) - phrejd MU - 1/27 10:17:44
          Louisville better make a good hire here or they could - tgr MU - 1/27 09:30:19
               What ever happened to that former ku player they briefly had - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 09:35:17
                    David Padget(nm) - TigerA MU - 1/27 09:39:53
                    Padgett I think (nm) - zoomer 99 - 1/27 09:38:43
                         That's right. Kept think Scott Padgett but he played for UK(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/27 11:46:44
     You might see that in a couple of months (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 08:54:20
          Think the caliber of candidates will be comparable? - phrejd MU - 1/27 08:56:27
               Nope Louisville is a way better job. - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/27 09:09:52
                    yeah those candidates seem like a reach even for them. - phrejd MU - 1/27 10:16:51
          the people considering the job won't be the level of - TigerA MU - 1/27 08:55:32




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