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"[Great Coach] has baggage, therefore we shouldn't hire him"

Posted on: November 16, 2021 at 17:27:17 CT
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is the absolute dumbest reasoning you'll ever see for not hiring a great coach at a program that couldn't otherwise hire him.

Baggage is the *only* reason we would be able to hire a great coach in the first place (especially under these circumstances), so to cite that as the reason we *shouldn't* hire such a coach is self-defeating, circular logic.

Auburn landed Bruce Pearl because of his baggage, and they've reaped the rewards. There's nothing stopping Mizzou from doing the same, except our own misguided feeling of moral superiority. Mizzou needs to get off its high horse and take a chance on a proven coach with some "baggage".

We know that Gregg Marshall can do MORE with LESS, and that's exactly what we need right now. He also has regional ties and seems like a good and logical fit for Mizzou.

And for those of you who say "I'm worried he couldn't recruit well because of the baggage"... he doesn't need top 50 recruits to win. He's proven that consistently at mid-major programs with mid-major players. So that's not an issue (and FWIW, I think he'll be able to recruit just fine).

Marshall is out there for the taking, and it's a good opportunity (maybe our ONLY opportunity) to get the program back on track. Let's give him a chance to resurrect the program.
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"[Great Coach] has baggage, therefore we shouldn't hire him" - zounami MU - 11/16 17:27:17
     Agreed - be a solid fit too and not too many years ago . . . - raskolnikov MU - 11/16 18:51:23
     Give it up. We don't need or want a coach who - *M* KC - 11/16 18:16:13
          if he had "physically assaulted" his players, there would - zounami MU - 11/16 19:18:26
               Wrong. Charges are filed only if the victim - *M* KC - 11/16 19:31:00
                    That's not true. It's within a prosecutor's discretion. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:37:04
                         For example, if I beat you to a bloody pulp, and then for - zounami MU - 11/16 19:38:05
                              The prosecutor can, but very, very, very rarely will - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 19:40:56
                                   serious allegations are always looked into (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:48:49
          I am honestly stunned people think a public school president - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 18:48:15
               it would have a net-positive effect on revenue (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:17:11
                    and most fans would be thrilled, the media wouldn't care (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:17:22
                         If you think the media wouldn't care... - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 19:19:01
                              A couple nobodies. Years have passed, and no charges - zounami MU - 11/16 19:20:58
                                   Goodman is probably one of the top 5 NCAAB reporters - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 19:22:42
                                        I bet fewer than 1 out of 1000 people have heard of him. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:24:17
                                             He was the lead reporter for ESPN for years on NCAAB nm - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 19:26:47
                                                  It's been a couple years since I've heard about him. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:27:40
                                                       ESPN fired almost everyone worthwhile on CBB - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 19:29:05
                                                            including the world-famous journalist, Jeff Goodman? (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:36:28
     Kind of baggage matters(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 11/16 17:32:01
          This kind is acceptable, certainly not a deal-breaker. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 17:33:09
               Wife would not let my kid play for a guy who has touched - TigerFan92 STL - 11/16 18:26:25
                    also, rumors of assault that don't result in charges are - zounami MU - 11/16 19:15:52
                    ok, fine... onto the next recruit (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:14:56
                         He lost six scholarship players and his top recruit - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 19:15:23
                              Bruce Pearl had a falling out as well. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:16:25
                                   Pearl is also a wizard at recruiting - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 19:17:07
                                        Gregg Marshall doesn't even need high-rated recruits. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:17:47
                                             Yes, but you tend to need those players to stay for 3-4 yrs - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 19:24:08
          Big difference between NCAA crimes and physical abuse nm - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:32:55
               Was he ever charged with a crime? (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 17:33:24
                    The statute of limitations has passed on the most serious - Mo Texan MU - 11/16 17:57:32
                    No, but it doesn't matter. - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:40:12
                         It certainly *does* matter. And his career isn't over. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 17:41:26
                              His career is over at the high major level. nm - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:42:32
                                   One chance to rehab his career and he is good to go again. - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/16 17:55:14
                                        correct (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:14:08
                                        I'm not sure that's right - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:56:29
                                   WRONG (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 17:43:01
     Stop wasting time on the GM stuff - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:28:32
          Are you afraid of a new kind of field trip - cal tiger MU - 11/16 17:40:02
          No, that's always been Mizzou's foolish attitude... - zounami MU - 11/16 17:34:33
          They will probably screw around and somebody else will - thytiger MU - 11/16 17:31:36
               Yep. It happens EVERY time. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 17:35:28
               He is not getting a P5 Job. Full Stop. - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:32:32
                    Wrong. Your attitude is what Mizzou's problem has been - zounami MU - 11/16 17:35:15
                         This isn't a Mizzou thing - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:41:02
                              You're making stuff up. You have no idea which coaches - zounami MU - 11/16 17:42:24
                                   I will bet you $10,000 - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:42:49
                                        lol (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 17:43:16
                                             I think GM is an amazing, amazing coach - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:44:24
                                                  If there's evidence of it, why wasn't he charged? (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 17:44:59
                                                       There's a big difference between talking to your school - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:46:01
                                                            sounds like it wasn't serious, or possibly even made up (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 17:46:53
                                                                 RE: sounds like it wasn't serious, or possibly even made up (nm) - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:47:37
                                                                      Those are serious allegations that a DA would pursue. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 17:48:25
                                                                           That's not how this works - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 17:50:55
                                                                                choking an assistant, punching players... sounds fabricated - zounami MU - 11/16 19:13:50
                                                                                     There's a presumption of innocence in a courtroom - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 19:15:45
                                                                                          and among reasonable people (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:20:14
                                                                                               There's a rather large difference - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 19:22:15
                                                                                                    The allegations sound bogus to me. Same with Howland. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/16 19:24:59
                                                                                                         Howland was just letting kids go nuts - TigerUppercut MU - 11/16 19:28:18
                                                                                                              "physically assaulting" players, yet never charged for it... - zounami MU - 11/16 19:35:35




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