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Posted on: October 30, 2021 at 12:06:46 CT
Genco98 MU
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I am not judging him hard on last year or this year. I am just saying the guy hasn't done anything yet on the field overall. Last year was bizarre with no spring practices, games canceled, rosters decimated etc. They also got blown out in several of the final games if you are really obsessed with "counting" last year.

In theory this year hasn't been great. But again can you understand I want to see the guy cycle through some years and see some on field results before I crown him king. "On paper" recruiting classes are not my benchmark. Pinkel is a good example of that.

That's fine if you think he's the second coming based on "oral commitments" that's fine. I just don't look at that as my benchmark based on history I see at Mizzou and even other schools like Iowa.

Edited by Genco98 at 12:09:20 on 10/30/21
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     Bad hires and not maximizing talent = disaster at Mizzou. - Nats84 MU - 10/30 13:15:28
     ...and a younger version of Steve Spurrier (nm) - zounami MU - 10/30 11:12:04
          I think taking a chance on a young guy was a smart move - Genco98 MU - 10/30 11:18:12
               Zou talks like his agent - Gambler USA - 10/30 11:55:21
                    I'm just posting facts. (nm) - zounami MU - 10/30 12:01:40
               He's able to win recruiting battles for SEC-caliber players. - zounami MU - 10/30 11:19:29
                    ...even while the team sucks, he lands a 5-star blue chip (nm) - zounami MU - 10/30 11:25:02
                         Again let's see who actually ends up on campus - Genco98 MU - 10/30 11:32:32
                              The ability to win those recruiting battles cannot be denied - zounami MU - 10/30 11:33:44
                                   I'd rather wait until I see some on-field progress - Genco98 MU - 10/30 11:40:55
                                        We saw that last year when the roster wasn't as thin... - zounami MU - 10/30 11:45:08
                                             Not really - Genco98 MU - 10/30 11:48:34
                                                  so your counterpoint is "last year didn't count"...? (nm) - zounami MU - 10/30 11:51:02
                                                       Are you counting this year? - Genco98 MU - 10/30 11:54:10
                                                            18 months?... I thought last year didn't count... - zounami MU - 10/30 11:59:02
                                                                 You can't either - Genco98 MU - 10/30 12:06:46
                                                                      I'm not. I'm saying both years count, but you're discounting - zounami MU - 10/30 12:07:59
                                                                           Odom dealt with "Pinkel's recruiting failures" - Genco98 MU - 10/30 12:14:07
                                                                                The bottom line is that to compete in the SEC, you need a - zounami MU - 10/30 12:18:43
                                                                                     You are arguing against yourself - Genco98 MU - 10/30 12:25:00
                                                                                          No, you're talking about outliers or "diamonds in the rough" - zounami MU - 10/30 12:28:18
                                                                                               Can you understand that coaching and player retention - Genco98 MU - 10/30 12:33:33
                                                                                                    Yes, of course. But all we know at the moment is that - zounami MU - 10/30 12:44:50
                                                                                                         Do we? - Genco98 MU - 10/30 12:47:26
                                                                                Pinkel recruited better than Odom. Would love to have - zounami MU - 10/30 12:18:02
                                   And the inability of high caliber recruits to live up to - Nohawks KC - 10/30 11:38:40
                                        which ones? (nm) - zounami MU - 10/30 11:44:00
                                             The Texas class as a whole and others - Nohawks KC - 10/30 11:50:08
                                                  ok, I'm talking about Mizzou... not Texas, Miami, etc (nm) - zounami MU - 10/30 11:51:34
                                                       Slow down sue. My point is and I know you know - Nohawks KC - 10/30 11:57:10
                                                            And it's a very stupid point. All we know, currently, is - zounami MU - 10/30 12:04:26
                                                                 Lol. Why am I wrong (nm) - Nohawks KC - 10/30 12:11:17
                                                                      it's not wrong, it's irrelevant... we have a skilled - zounami MU - 10/30 12:13:42
                                                                           The caffeine is wearing off - Nohawks KC - 10/30 12:18:41
                                                                                Another irrelevant point, this time about the BB coach. (nm) - zounami MU - 10/30 12:20:40
                                                  Yeah Odom himself had an number of his - Genco98 MU - 10/30 11:51:34
                                                       There's a strong correlation between recruit ratings and - zounami MU - 10/30 12:06:08
                                                            There ya go sue ! You said it - good for you - Nohawks KC - 10/30 12:12:43
                                                                 Exactly good grief - Genco98 MU - 10/30 12:49:42
                                                                      Does zounami need a refill on his meds? - Nohawks twin #1 MU - 10/30 13:01:35
                                                                 "water is wet... the sky is blue..." –Gohawks - zounami MU - 10/30 12:14:36
          More like a less-experienced Dan Hawkins (nm) - zoomer 99 - 10/30 11:17:27
               ITS DIVISION ONE FOOTBALL. ITS THE BIG TWEELVE - motleyzou MU - 10/30 12:57:27
               how so? (nm) - zounami MU - 10/30 11:20:01
                    Hawkins BSU -> Colorado is kind of similar - zoomer 99 - 10/30 11:25:53
                         Not at all. Drink has recruited better and won more against - zounami MU - 10/30 11:32:42
                              also, App State has definitely declined since Drink left... - zounami MU - 10/30 11:38:03
                                   Missouri has declined since Drink arrived (nm) - zoomer 99 - 10/30 11:40:00
                                        No. We went from losing to Vanderbilt, Kentucky, never... - zounami MU - 10/30 11:43:50
                                             Ok, being sub-.500 is better than being .500 - zoomer 99 - 10/30 11:49:08
                                                  Odom couldn't even beat Vanderbilt by his final year... - zounami MU - 10/30 11:57:33
                              Ok, I guess you're in the denial phase (nm) - zoomer 99 - 10/30 11:34:12
                                   no, I just explained why your comparison is absurd (nm) - zounami MU - 10/30 11:34:38
                                        Ok you're right, Drink = young Steve Spurrier (nm) - zoomer 99 - 10/30 11:39:23
                                             it's the closest comparison (nm) - zounami MU - 10/30 11:40:27




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