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I tend to agree, mostly.

Posted on: October 25, 2021 at 09:03:18 CT

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I'm not sure I'd say CM did a "bad" job last year. Yes, they faded down the stretch, but the team won some big games, and they made it to the tournament. In year one, I thought he did better than "bad" with the MPJ injury situation. I also don't fault him for the second year, since the entire offense was to be designed around Jontay, who then got injured as well. Not saying he's good, but I don't think it's fair to say he has done a bad job at Mizzou. We'll just have to agree to disagree, as I know I cannot convince you - you are one of the more obstinate posters on this board.

But to your other point, I agree that this is a year where he will either prove that he can be a good coach, capable of winning at Mizzou, or not, and the team is just awful, and he deserves to be on the hot seat (or even fired, though I doubt that will happen). It's his roster, and you're right that it was his choice to reset - he could have retained more pieces from the 2020-21 team, and he chose not to do so.

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Non-Con Preview... - TigerinKansas MU

- 10/24 19:14:10

If we get to 17 wins I’d be very highly surprised - Bump834 MU - 10/25 12:09:54

If we win games by 1 are we good? If we lose by 1 are bad?(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/25 12:23:57

RE: If we win games by 1 are we good? If we lose by 1 are bad?(nm) - Bump834 MU - 10/25 12:49:29

+/- should be within 2 games of .500 (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 12:15:23

Really will boil down to specials teams and managing - Fred G. Sanford USA - 10/25 11:34:58

ku & Illini take us this yr and maybe Utah, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 10/25 09:53:55

KU and Illini should.Utah win would be an upset in my opine(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/25 11:36:16

Mizzou should beat Utah. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 09:56:02

i thought the same for a lot of games last year, so a bit of - MU-TULSA MU - 10/25 10:08:01

We should definitely beat Utah if we are a decent team. - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 10:12:44

Not great. I count about 12 to 14 total wins. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 10/25 09:28:45

You're still drunk from the chefs loss.....nm - tigertix MU - 10/25 08:55:04

With an almost entirely new roster how can anybody - alstl MU - 10/25 07:43:28

The easiest thing to predict is that they'll struggle - HissingPrigs77 MU - 10/25 09:53:09

That's a good point. I think that we can safely predict - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/25 07:59:45

I agree. I think in large part many of the questions - FIJItiger MU

- 10/25 08:11:24

I tend to agree, mostly. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/25 09:03:18

Just the last 3 years, his first season I think he did - FIJItiger MU

- 10/25 11:04:44

That last statement is definitely true for the end of last - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/25 11:24:39

Agree we started strong and looked poised to actually - FIJItiger MU

- 10/25 11:26:42

CM's history is that his teams are only as good as his - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 11:12:08

So does that mean that if he is not "almost KA level," - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/25 11:26:44

You don't get credit for fixing a roster that you yourself - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 11:36:19

I agree about the blame for the roster reset. That - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/25 11:41:53

I think he is a better coach than KA and the floor for him - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 11:47:35

I can agree with that. I'm not quite as down on him as you - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/25 11:51:30

The main problem I have with this current roster is that CM - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 11:59:24

Wouldn't Dru Smith, Kassius Robertson, Pinson, Geist all - FIJItiger MU

- 10/25 13:19:45

Wait no history of finding players that others overlooked? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 12:16:40

Not for me. .500 in your 5th year at a program is terrible - FIJItiger MU

- 10/25 11:29:04

what about the last two years under that premise? - FIJItiger MU

- 10/25 11:25:11

In 17-18 he had Kass, Barnett, Jontay, Tilmon, Puryear and - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 11:40:34

17-18 was the most talented Mizzou team - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 11:28:33

No, that is absurdly false (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 10/25 11:29:30

17-18 had - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 11:35:32

This is true for almost every coach. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 11:21:19

Agree. I think we go 10-3 noncon, 9-9 in SEC, and - FIJItiger MU

- 10/25 07:21:18

Cuonzo will be retained after this year even if we go 10-20 - HissingPrigs77 MU - 10/25 09:27:48

Disagree. Surely he would quit if that happened, but if not - FIJItiger MU

- 10/25 09:28:57

Unless they find him a motel room with a dead woman and - HissingPrigs77 MU - 10/25 09:30:31

That prediction means that you think this brand new team - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 09:07:27

We were .500 in SEC play last year and had the - FIJItiger MU

- 10/25 09:28:04

We were actually worse against the bottom feeders - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 09:33:25

Tilmon didn’t play against Georgia (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 09:38:36

We still lost to the worst team in the SEC. Tilmon or not - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 10:11:44

The nose dive started right when - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 10:20:17

If we were a decent team we win those games with or without - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 10:39:51

It was definitely about Tilmon - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 10:50:34

The team quit on CM. You could see it in the effort and you - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 11:13:44

Is that why several had improved stats? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 11:22:06

Improved what stats?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 11:42:05

Scoring, Rebounding, Assists, steals - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 11:45:43

What player had those stats go up the final month of the - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 11:49:09

Dru, Kobe, Buggs - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 12:14:00

RE: Non-Con Preview... - MUKdC MU - 10/24 21:41:57

No way we beat ku or the Illini. I figure 7-6 in the - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/24 20:11:17

RE: No way we beat ku or the Illini. I figure 7-6 in the - Mizzhope MU - 10/24 20:29:00

The bottom of the SEC was worse the first - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 20:54:08

.500 Non-Con (nm) - tiger4real MU - 10/24 20:00:56

I think Illinois is a loss. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 19:39:38

I see 11-22 - Radical Tiger MU - 10/24 23:27:57

RE: I see 0-33 - Soltan Gris MU - 10/25 07:01:10

HA...very well played sir. - Nazfan MU - 10/25 08:36:23

You call it negativity, most of us would call it reality. - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/25 09:26:53