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I cannot believe he still backs that argument

Posted on: July 6, 2021 at 10:14:27 CT

meatiger MU

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Is discretion important..yes it is...but it has nothing to do with law and order. It actually shows the exact problem with those that defend "law and order"...but he bastardizes it so he can still defend his big government.

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95 people shot in Chicago over the weekend - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:09:46

We have a very large worship problem in the USA. - MizzouTigerz MU

- 7/6 10:13:30

I didn't see the breakdown of people raised by rejecting - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 08:47:30

So you believe it's just the way "those people" are? - tigerfans3 MU - 7/6 09:08:13

That's what 4Tigs is apparently claiming. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:12:32

Sadly in modern America, they are in far too many places - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:48:18

Statistics bearing that out would help your thesis. Right - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 08:49:13

RE: Statistics bearing that out would help your thesis. Right - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 09:45:08

blacks are 13% of the population but commit 54% of violent - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 7/6 08:57:09

They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:11:02

RE: They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 09:45:27

RE: They are 54% of arrests, yes. I would bet they commit far - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:17:22

He walked himself right into that one(nm) - Eggs MU - 7/6 09:21:37

There is well-known bias in crime statistics. - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:21:36

So you can't do it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:22:30

I just did. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:24:22

no, you didn't - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 7/6 09:41:27

No, you just ignored my evidence. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:54:49

It's actually higher when you count the crimes committed - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 09:16:56

It's actually likely far more - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 7/6 09:12:43

Based on what exactly? - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/6 09:12:12

More than 70% of black children are born out of wedlock - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:55:07

Sounds like an emotional appeal to me. - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:01:45

If those are the real reasons, and I disagree that they are - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:11:15

It takes $$$. Teachers have to be compensated well to - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:18:55

Yes, I am in favor of paying teachers more, as long - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:27:01

The damage has been done. America has already signaled that - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:33:29

Why are suburban kids doing much better? - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:43:32

Yes, and these schools suffer because first they don't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:04:35

Poor schools are at the root of many of the problems we see - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:14:12

If families in those areas don't value education - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:15:26

RE: If families in those areas don't value education - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:23:04

Again, forcing your religious or own personal moral beliefs - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:07:49

It is not my own beliefs - it is proven again and again - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:10:37

So do you want to force people.to.stay married or get - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:16:51

I have not advocated for forcing either - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:18:46

I'm interested to know your proposed solution. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:24:04

Maybe a better question is what is your proposed - Outsider MU - 7/6 09:31:21

Some are simple - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:28:33

So your solution is not education, but to just make these - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/6 09:41:51

No, it is to encourage/reward the behaviors that will make - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:44:34

Critical race theory says whites are at fault - mu7176grad MU - 7/6 08:43:02

The police state breaks up most of those families - meatiger MU - 7/6 08:39:24

Yes, the fact that people don't like the laws is reason not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:44:58

sounds like a law problem to me - ashtray UF - 7/6 09:14:45

So if government banned religion - meatiger MU - 7/6 08:51:48

I would not obey it as it is a Constitutionally protected - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 08:56:02

until the Supreme Court ruled on it, you would obey, though - ashtray UF - 7/6 09:18:25

so... - meatiger MU - 7/6 08:58:48

Let's stay on topic. You asked about a law forbidding - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:02:56

My point was just an example - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:10:51

Again, discretion is part of law and order - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:14:42

you are contradicting yourself. discretion is not part of - pickle MU

- 7/6 10:10:16

I cannot believe he still backs that argument - meatiger MU - 7/6 10:14:27

i can. he is lazy, arrogant, and dishonest - pickle MU

- 7/6 10:33:42

some people redefine words so they can get attention - ashtray UF - 7/6 10:13:01

you just said not liking laws is not an excuse to break them - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:17:00

Explain the different discretion used on otherwise similar - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:22:05

I don't understand the question(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:25:20

that's the opposite of law and order - ashtray UF - 7/6 09:16:54

he is unprincipled and guided solely by emotion (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/6 09:13:21

He truly thinks more government can solve problems - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:15:01

I am simply asking you to back up your claims - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:16:43

If both people have the ability to make - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:17:44

Why do you add conditions? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:20:56

Without those conditions..it is rape - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:24:40

So you attack others who claim people should not be able - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:30:45

this is one hell of a straw man and red herring (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/6 09:47:05

The difference is - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:36:53

I am not saying your position in invalid - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:38:58

the difference is - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:44:13

You either lie or are just not very smart - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:47:23

So if there is no age of consent - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:58:28

Because you are the one bashing others for denying - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 10:01:12

It is not "how I see fit" - meatiger MU - 7/6 10:03:53

Then tell me your standards - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 10:28:04

Why must I define the standards? - meatiger MU - 7/6 10:33:40

You don't need to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 11:05:43

what if it wasn't in the constitution? would you follow the - SwampTiger MU - 7/6 09:05:39

I likely would not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/6 09:07:52

It is the system that is leading to the breakup of family - meatiger MU - 7/6 09:13:19

why are you bringing violence into it? - pickle MU

- 7/6 09:12:38

no (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/6 08:47:44

Don't break the law, don't go to jail. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 08:43:14

Police Department under attack - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 08:30:19

lol no (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/6 08:42:36

RE: lol no (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 08:45:31

that doesn’t support “Police Department under attack” - pickle MU

- 7/6 08:47:16

argumentative pickle is argumentative. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 08:55:51

it’s basic reading comprehension (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/6 09:11:35

You really are a pathetic POS. - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 09:15:45

Looking at that picture it’s pretty plain to see - Outsider MU - 7/6 08:37:49

Can I get a number of how many were shot by police? - Tigrrrr! MU

- 7/6 08:21:27

Damn chiraq stepped up, really pumping those numbers - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 7/6 08:11:42

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