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Except governments have been toppled by people because

Posted on: April 18, 2021 at 10:52:07 CT
TigerMatt STL
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those people recognized their rights are immutable and that the government was infringing upon them.

If rights are derived from government, then there would be no basis for this or words like found in the Declaration of Independence...

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
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If rights come from government, there should be no - TigerMatt STL - 4/18 10:41:49
     This is simply an argument between philosophy, and reality. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/18 10:48:47
          “pretending that in total anarchy rights will be completely - pickle MU - 4/18 10:52:59
               Yes, you do, but when pressed have zero actual answers. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/18 11:05:56
                    no, it's a strawman (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/18 15:34:30
                    So now you’re admitting you lied - pickle MU - 4/18 11:13:20
                    Liar (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/18 11:08:50
                    You always ignore the most critical point. One is based - TigerMatt STL - 4/18 11:07:20
                         That's mainly an argument on semantics. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/18 11:14:16
                              No, RHAY (nm) - pickle MU - 4/18 11:27:03
                              No it isn't. Your argument is one used by dictators - TigerMatt STL - 4/18 11:15:45
                                   That's just a stupid response. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/18 11:18:03
                                        You don't understand the basic concept of rights. So you - TigerMatt STL - 4/18 11:19:03
                                             sorry, you're wrong as usual. Even dumber response. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/18 11:30:58
                                                  you literally don't know what you're talking about. you - 90Tiger STL - 4/18 15:35:43
                                                  You don't understand the basic concept of rights. - TigerMatt STL - 4/18 11:34:51
                                                  no, he’s right - pickle MU - 4/18 11:32:52
               I don't get it. These people complain when government takes - TigerMatt STL - 4/18 10:59:59
                    they’d have to admit they’re wrong - pickle MU - 4/18 11:01:41
          Except governments have been toppled by people because - TigerMatt STL - 4/18 10:52:07
               You just trashed your moral choice of non participation. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/18 11:08:45
                    Rights are not regained because they cannot be lost - pickle MU - 4/18 11:38:19
                    No. I didn't. I, myself, do not have the power to overthrow - TigerMatt STL - 4/18 11:15:02




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