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Was thinking about the downfall of MU bb this weekend

Posted on: March 22, 2021 at 14:08:43 CT
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And I have previously always pinpointed it to the weekend we hired Kim Anderson. But I don't think that is necessarily correct. I think it is actually August 2011.

At that point in time Mike Anderson had already left for Arkansas and a near player revolt has been calmed with the whole 'we will reconcile by winning' press conference. To prepare for upcoming roster imbalance Auburns leading scorer and rebounder Earnest Ross and someone who had scored 18ppg each of the prior two seasons at Pepperdine in Keion Bell had been added as transfers to become eligible the next season. With those commitments the new staff turned their attention to the future and incoming freshman. In August, the Nevin Shapiro scandal rocked Miami and Haith was implicated from his recruitment of DeQuan Jones. MU failed to give any kind of vote of confidence or support, and the new staff was left in limbo for almost two years while the NCAA worked towards a resolution.

Here is a post from Killer (former moderator on this site) on September 7, 2011 (archives no longer go back that far so I'll just post the content):

"Certainly, almost all these top 100 kids we were in on are Fuller's recruits, but the reason everyone has dropped Mizzou from consideration is the situation of uncertainty without a public vote of confidence for Haith and the coaching staff. Labor day weekend was really the time frame this needed to be resolved and when it wasn't, these kids and their families had to start scheduling in home visits for next week without Mizzou on the list. Here is who we apparently lost out on. And yes, I'm 100% sure this info is accurate.

#6 Rodney Purvis, #7 Anthony Bennett, #11 Jarnell Stokes, #15 Danuel House, #47 Chicken Knowles, #59 Montay Brandon, #77 DeMarquise Johnson

We wouldn't have gotten all these kids, but there are two of them that were really in the bag for the most part, and two others that we had a great shot at. There was little doubt this was going to be a huge pull with all the scholarships we had to offer. At this point, it appears that it's up in flames and I'm told there is no getting back in."

Instead we got Ryan Rosburg, Stefan Jankovic, Negus Webster-Chan, Dominique Bull, and Tony Criswell (JUCO). That is a pretty big difference. That meant 2013-14 was right back to a rebuilding year (although one with 23 wins, seems like a long time ago such a season could be considered rebuilding at MU). Tiger basketball never recovered. Just like Alden's lack of spine caused MU bb to crater in 2004, in an understated way he did it again to an even more problematic degree in 2011.

Edited by FIJItiger at 14:11:38 on 03/22/21
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Was thinking about the downfall of MU bb this weekend - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:08:43
          There has been 2 tournaments since 2003 that - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:53:39
     I would actually go to the day Matt Painter turned down the - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 3/22 14:40:01
          I did feel pretty confident and quite good about - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:50:05
               I was very excited about the possibility. I'm still not - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 3/22 14:52:16
     Alden destroyed hoops culture while - slamduncan KC - 3/22 14:38:31
          Or we are Missourah and can't be good at the two revenue - MUTGR MU - 3/22 14:51:26
          Hring an unproven, undisciplined Qdog over Self - slamduncan KC - 3/22 14:43:20
               RE: Hring an unproven, undisciplined Qdog over Self - tigerparr MU - 3/22 17:31:11
               RE: Hring an unproven, undisciplined Qdog over Self - MUTGR MU - 3/22 14:54:11
               RE: Hring an unproven, undisciplined Qdog over Self - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:48:47
                    RE: Hring an unproven, undisciplined Qdog over Self - slamduncan KC - 3/22 14:53:25
                         But he wasn't snapped up shortly thereafter, that is my - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:57:57
                              RE: But he wasn't snapped up shortly thereafter, that is my - slamduncan KC - 3/22 15:03:18
                                   I'll admit, I have no respect for Self and will likely never - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 15:05:38
                                        RE: I'll admit, I have no respect for Self and will likely never - slamduncan KC - 3/22 15:17:45
          Huggins came to KSU with possibly the shadiest incoming - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:37:49
               RE: Huggins came to KSU with possibly the shadiest incoming - MUTGR MU - 3/22 14:41:59
                    True. But Sundvold was also all for MU hiring Kim Anderson - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:46:31
                         RE: True. But Sundvold was also all for MU hiring Kim Anderson - slamduncan KC - 3/22 14:49:47
                              Larry Drew would have probably been a better option (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:51:15
                                   RE: Larry Drew would have probably been a better option (nm) - slamduncan KC - 3/22 14:54:38
     The trouble started in 1994 - alwaysright MU - 3/22 14:30:29
          RE: The trouble started in 1994 - slamduncan KC - 3/22 14:46:48
          You and I are similarly in line but slightly different - longtimereader MU - 3/22 14:41:29
               The 1998 class is the one opposition to that premise - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:45:37
                    Norm only got Dooling because he was willing to take Gilbert - alwaysright MU - 3/22 17:28:20
                    Actually it supports it - longtimereader MU - 3/22 15:17:55
          Incoming class: - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:36:14
               2 legit players. Norm picked the wrong one, drove off the - alwaysright MU - 3/22 17:24:46
     Was the zero-win Haith final season and dumpster fire - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 3/22 14:30:28
          Sorry, I was referencing reality based events. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:34:11
     There were some things about the dynamics of that team - longtimereader MU - 3/22 14:23:26
     At that point Mizzou had two legitimate choices - doughboy MU - 3/22 14:20:52
          Yup, MU did neither. Unrecoverable (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:28:34
     Mike Anderson's inability to sustain recruiting was a key - KC rules MU - 3/22 14:19:54
          Sucks Frank Martin was able to get Tony Mitchell declared - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:27:36
     MA Opening press conference antics was the beginning - Sigma MU - 3/22 14:14:52
          Agreed I think people either forgot or ignore that.(nm) - longtimereader MU - 3/22 14:26:37
               " Selective Amnesia"......nm - Sigma MU - 3/22 14:28:06
          What happened?!? - Bump834 MU - 3/22 14:20:53
               RE: What happened?!? - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:24:14
               Mike Alden went from introducing a new head coach - doughboy MU - 3/22 14:21:54
          That 1st press conf he had to be going WTF is going on - Erwin Fletcher STL - 3/22 14:17:09
          That was an ugly day on this board - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:16:30
               The entire episode shook the wife and she never recovered. - Sigma MU - 3/22 14:19:08
                    I think in a lot of ways we duped Mike Anderson into taking - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:20:48
                         MA didn't know who to trust & what to make of it. - Sigma MU - 3/22 14:25:17
                              A good rule of thumb in that situation - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:26:20
                                   Quinn forced Alden to micromanage and MA was - Sigma MU - 3/22 14:30:51
                                        I can't find the specifics, but as I recall MA had - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:33:36
     Go back to 1994 - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/22 14:13:27
          MU would have been tremendous the next - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:18:24
          1995 team was solid(nm) - tiger4real MU - 3/22 14:16:16
          Good Lord (nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/22 14:15:40
               27 seasons since that elite 8 team - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/22 14:24:57
                    Quin had some good teams and great players (nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/22 14:33:16
                         Quin was the right coach, wrong time - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/22 14:40:24
     Nah, it was the Norfolk St game. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/22 14:12:06
          Interesting. I don't subscribe to the theory that the - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:15:02
               Absolutely and Haith would still be here. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 3/22 14:16:54
                    If Dixon doesn’t get in trouble Haith gets an extension - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/22 14:28:17
                         RE: If Dixon doesn’t get in trouble Haith gets an extension - tigerparr MU - 3/22 17:35:38
                    Given our depth, I think you have to assume a - FIJItiger MU - 3/22 14:22:15




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