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Where would we be otherwise?

Posted on: January 12, 2021 at 15:49:48 CT

meatiger MU

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M.O.B. Votes:

We are in the middle of the biggest government shutdown ever

We are accelerating our debt

We just had citizens storm the Capitol

I guess we are not engaged in any full out international battles, but trade is in a horrible position.

I am not sure how much worse we could be today with all things considered

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Ohio State is the Libertarian Party of college football - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 15:33:44

They wound up participating (nm) - Sal MU

- 1/12 15:40:30

Why do you continue to focus on the non-participation - meatiger MU - 1/12 15:37:29

Because it shows clearly what ineffective gaywads you are..(nm) - TrumpToRushmore MU - 1/12 15:38:47

Non-participation has been a topic of discussion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 15:38:46

Most of the topics are not about voting - meatiger MU - 1/12 15:47:21

But it gets to the heart of the matter - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 15:51:40

It is a discussion forum - meatiger MU - 1/12 15:56:03

And this is why I so mock non-participation meat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 15:58:04

so you think government's role is to solve the problems - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:07:24

No, I don't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:10:56

by voting for people who do? - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:12:56

Sometimes you are voting for the less bad of two people - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:14:04

I disagree - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:21:15

OK - I get that this is your position - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:22:47

you may have a special talent - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:25:31

If I am given the choice of losing my left hand or both - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:27:36

not only would you choose it - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:28:59

I would have the ability to run indeed because I - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:30:04

sounds like something a left hand would say (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:32:16

And who is doing that? - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:11:29

Rand Paul works to do it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:12:29

But then he mocks when government - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:09:11

that just depends on who's solving it - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:12:01

so I guess you mock Reagan than(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/12 15:58:51

He was truly into non-participation - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:00:59

I was talking about the role of government - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:02:11

And so what did he do - participation or non-participation?(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:03:04

I was talking about solutions - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:03:41

And this is why I admired Reagan and make fun of the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:05:30

Not it was not - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:07:44

Totally agree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:11:46

You aren't going to do that voting Democrat. Look at Hawley(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/12 16:30:04

because life doesn't change for me regardless of which side - ashtray UF - 1/12 15:53:39

So you find virtue in sitting back doing nothing while - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 15:59:37

no, that would be you, the a**hole (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:04:26

your participation strategy is working gloriously - ashtray UF - 1/12 15:42:31

I have no idea where things wind up, but I know this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 15:46:10

the blame for the current state lies at your feet - ashtray UF - 1/12 15:50:07

I have been very busy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 15:53:23

why do you conflate not voting as doing nothing?(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/12 15:58:07

I am doing something - ashtray UF - 1/12 15:54:32

No, it does not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:02:13

either option gives me that - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:03:29

Do you ever think - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:03:07

So is that why Libertarians always nominate joke candidates? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:06:40

you're talking about the Libertarian party - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:09:34

Indeed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:13:12

aren't you doing the latter right now? (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:15:58

How so? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:17:39

telling me I should vote (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:22:13

I am doing that from a position of participation - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:23:47

so you can tell people what to do - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:26:47

Those who are engaged sure look a lot less foolish than - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:28:19

voting =/= engaged - pickle MU

- 1/12 16:40:05

Keep voting and see no progress.. is that smart or foolish?(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 1/12 16:31:47

the only difference between your method and mine - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:30:02

Again, my lifestyle this past year is evidence it matters(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:31:13

why do you refuse to address the moral argument - pickle MU

- 1/12 16:44:03

mine was no different than yours - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:33:04

I think there last few have actually been better - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:08:32

The last one got 1.2% of the vote - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:14:44

Because they are completely shut out - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:15:54

And that is the point that started all of this yesterday - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:19:01

At some point enough people will get fed up with the current - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:20:27

But if they don't participate, all that means is the ones - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:22:04

A lot of those people were in DC on the 6th(nm) - redngray MU - 1/12 16:22:01

Where would we be otherwise? - meatiger MU - 1/12 15:49:48

Can't think of many nations who would not trade places with - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 15:55:41

are you crediting that to you voting? (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:05:29

I am crediting it to those who have participated(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:07:08

ok. just confirming that you believe government creates - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:08:32

They certainly don't create wealth - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:15:45

what barriers do they remove that they don't create? (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:16:42

Exaclty - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:20:11

sounds reactive and counterproductive - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:21:55

And it may be - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:24:45

and you think by voting you are doing something - ashtray UF - 1/12 16:26:19

My lifestyle during COVID is proof - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:29:14

They don't remove barriers - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:19:28

Trump removed more regulation than any president in - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:21:04

20 years ago..I would say not a chance - meatiger MU - 1/12 15:57:25

It would beat any other nation handliy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:04:19

I would have a much better life in many other countries - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:07:02

What do you think that tells you about the Philippienes? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:10:15

No...those were various examples - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:14:19

And in 2020 I had the best year of my career - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:16:42

you thank the country for your success - meatiger MU - 1/12 16:17:46

No, I am thankful for a country where I am provided the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 16:26:25

You are incapable of thinking outside the collective.(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 1/12 15:40:47

I can think outside of it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/12 15:44:44

so you don't like out of the mainstream - meatiger MU - 1/12 15:50:37

lol (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/12 15:46:25

he’s a troll and incapable of being honest (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/12 15:48:01

He is not smart enough to be a troll..Hef is a troll(nm) - meatiger MU - 1/12 15:51:32

straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 1/12 15:39:23