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Posted on: August 7, 2020 at 10:55:07 CT

zounami MU

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national security, competition/antitrust protection, etc, are essential.

Your interpretation of the word "free" is too literal for the sake of discussion. This is how economists generally characterize a "free market", according to Investopedia:

• A free market is one where voluntary exchange and the laws of supply and demand provide the sole basis for the economic system, without government intervention.

• A key feature of free markets is the absence of coerced (forced) transactions or conditions on transactions.

• While no pure free market economies actually exist, and all markets are in some ways constrained, economists who measure the degree of freedom in markets have found a generally positive relationship between free markets and measures of economic well being.

So you can have *minimal* regulations to protect society from bad actors, and still remain a free market in general.

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TikTok threatens legal action against Trump US ban - Kim DUKE - 8/7 08:48:24

RE: TikTok threatens legal action: No doubt the appropriate - BH O'bonga MU - 8/7 10:04:37

TikTok thots are the worst(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 8/7 08:53:52

That's odd, they didn't do the same to India - Sal MU

- 8/7 08:49:42

RE: That's odd, they didn't do the same to India - meatiger MU - 8/7 09:04:12

no (nm) - Sal MU

- 8/7 09:08:48

RE: no (nm) - meatiger MU - 8/7 09:20:33

indeed, dems going after American institutions like - zounami MU - 8/7 09:51:28

I see you fall for the marketing - meatiger MU - 8/7 09:52:58

RE: I see you fall for the marketing - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 10:16:55

freedom is propaganda?(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:20:56

RE: freedom is propaganda?(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 10:23:31

LOL(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:31:41

Evidently you are naive enough to trust China... - zounami MU - 8/7 09:57:19

That is one F'd up post - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:00:11

Regulations do not prevent free markets, but they do ensure - zounami MU - 8/7 10:11:33

you’re the one advocating fascism here - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:23:04

based on your definition of "free market", one cannot exist - zounami MU - 8/7 10:38:31

RE: based on your definition of "free market", one cannot exist - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 10:51:31

Most monopolies are monopolies - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:52:27

wrong. monopolies are sole creations of gvmt - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:53:22

there is an example of a natural monopoly - ashtray UF - 8/7 11:19:48

i wouldn't call that a monopoly - pickle MU

- 8/7 12:10:35

what a stupid assessment - ashtray UF - 8/7 10:48:04

Economists would tell you the exact same thing... - zounami MU - 8/7 11:00:58

and you want to make them even less free, making you - ashtray UF - 8/7 11:21:01

no, I'm a utilitarian, I want whatever is best for the - zounami MU - 8/7 11:25:04

you mispelled "fascist" (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/7 13:19:09

you do not believe in free markets and capitalism - pickle MU

- 8/7 11:58:27

yet..when you are given a choice - meatiger MU - 8/7 11:02:51

have a good day (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:45:25

Here is the challenge - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:43:45

regulations for the environment, public health & safety... - zounami MU - 8/7 10:55:07

"without government intervention" - ashtray UF - 8/7 11:22:05

you took that out of context, and missed the part about - zounami MU - 8/7 11:39:51

i bet you can’t define/describe free market (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 12:01:21

I already posted the consensus among economists. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/7 12:08:14

for one, no, you didn't - pickle MU

- 8/7 12:11:19

wrong, on both counts (nm) - zounami MU - 8/7 12:12:56

incorrect - pickle MU

- 8/7 12:20:21

incorrect (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:58:39

I would not call denying a business to conduct its - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:56:33

That's because you don't understand the national - zounami MU - 8/7 11:09:55

apparently neither do you - ashtray UF - 8/7 11:22:48

If that is the case - meatiger MU - 8/7 11:11:34

if OS vendors (Google / Apple) discovered that the TikTok - zounami MU - 8/7 11:22:43

when has TikTok pushed malware to devices? (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/7 11:23:29

they haven't yet, to my knowledge (nm) - zounami MU - 8/7 11:40:57

wow(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/7 13:35:31

RE: wow(nm) - zounami MU - 8/7 13:50:07

So someone told you there could be a threat - meatiger MU - 8/7 14:09:36

I'm glad you're not in charge of our national security - zounami MU - 8/7 14:24:11

using TikTok? - ashtray UF - 8/7 15:20:39

so what's your complaint? (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/7 13:20:05

I already answered this extremely dumb question... - zounami MU - 8/7 13:56:26

but you just said that hasn't happened - ashtray UF - 8/7 15:18:59

those are hypotheticals - meatiger MU - 8/7 14:10:32

only if FOX News said so (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/7 15:19:25

"That terrorist group hasn't attacked us yet... - zounami MU - 8/7 14:14:34

your views are more in line with China than meatiger's are - ashtray UF - 8/7 10:14:54

I have no interest in moving to China - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:12:49

they absolutely do - ashtray UF - 8/7 10:12:06

Environmental regulations, for example, ensure that... - zounami MU - 8/7 10:17:24

lol no (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:24:04

RE: lol no (nm) - zounami MU - 8/7 10:39:41

those are the kinds of regulations imposed on regulated - ashtray UF - 8/7 10:20:32

he heard it on FOX News - ashtray UF - 8/7 10:01:50

you're anti-free market and anti-capitalism, then - ashtray UF - 8/7 09:58:50

You're the one defending a product of communist China. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/7 10:06:04

you sound as when the Dems are anti-Russia on everything(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:11:21

I'm on the side of Trump & most republicans regarding TikTok - zounami MU - 8/7 10:45:07

you’re on the side of fascism (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 10:58:07

no, that's China and BigTech, which I'm arguing against (nm) - zounami MU - 8/7 11:42:15

China is communist, not fascist - ashtray UF - 8/7 13:20:37

It's both, Lebron. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/7 13:58:19

you obviously don't know what those words mean either - ashtray UF - 8/7 15:19:53

no, you’re arguing for fascism (nm) - pickle MU

- 8/7 11:58:56

if you think America is so fascist, then perhaps you should - zounami MU - 8/7 11:59:40

i said you are advocating for fascism, and you are - pickle MU

- 8/7 12:12:53

I realize you are on the side of Trump - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:51:25

yes, because you're anti-capitalism and anti-free markets - ashtray UF - 8/7 10:47:06

you're the one attacking capitalism (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/7 10:08:40

That was a Rask level post(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:01:05

Maybe that business shouldn't have put our - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 09:24:28

it isn't (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/7 09:59:15

I find it amazing - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:32:55

Us peon citizens aren't in tune with the details - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 10:42:39

I though the deep state - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:52:55

If you ask the partisans on this board - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 11:01:46

Of course - meatiger MU - 8/7 11:03:24

Not a hard R - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 11:05:34

Liberal - meatiger MU - 8/7 11:08:57

I believe in them personally - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 11:19:16

lol (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/7 10:47:25

Exactly what have they done?(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/7 09:28:33

Those are matters of national security (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 09:33:28

LOL - meatiger MU - 8/7 09:36:34

what business?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 8/7 09:23:42

Tik Tok and NRA(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/7 09:28:11

ironically, NRA is American (so dems hate it) and TikTok - zounami MU - 8/7 09:49:45

They are both successful - meatiger MU - 8/7 09:51:58

TikTok is great for China's economy, but probably does more - zounami MU - 8/7 09:53:26

RE: TikTok is great for China's economy, but probably does more - meatiger MU - 8/7 09:55:14

China is an adversary; thus, Chinese-controlled software - zounami MU - 8/7 10:04:41

Kaspersky Labs has their security software in many US - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 11:28:23

which poses a cybersecurity & cyberespionage threat... - zounami MU - 8/7 11:59:04

no one moved to shut down tiktok(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 8/7 09:34:31

Trump has moved to ban it in the US(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/7 09:36:23

like I said no one moved to shut it down(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 8/7 09:59:58

In the USA he is(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:00:37

no he isn't(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 8/7 10:05:05

so what is he doing?(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/7 10:10:38

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