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The actual predicate question is why does the federal

Posted on: July 29, 2020 at 09:03:00 CT
Bulldog Bob Brown STL
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government have such a huge first, unquestionable and unassailable claim on income, earnings or profits of all types in the United States?

If you don't think they don't, what are the repercussions for any person or entity who does not pay what the government determines they owe?

Edited by Bulldog Bob Brown at 09:03:19 on 07/29/20
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For those of you who support the dems - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:38:46
     RE: For those of you who support the dems - MOCO SON MU - 7/29 10:28:01
     what was your reasoning for supporting $6T stimulus? - ashtray UF - 7/29 10:24:30
          Can you show me one time I supported that? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 11:42:48
     We shouldn’t, but we will. They will ask for a zillion - hokie VT - 7/29 09:59:14
          This both made me laugh and made me sad because there - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 10:02:06
     RE: For those of you who support the dems - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/29 09:27:29
          Sometimes you ask a question knowing what you will get - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:31:44
               That was a depiction of the Dems running the Barr - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/29 09:40:17
                    Yes it was - good call - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:42:27
                         The dot-head needs her ass kicked.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/29 09:46:14
               smug - SwampTiger MU - 7/29 09:35:33
                    4smug dammit(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:36:01
                         you mean 4stupidity(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:42:57
                              Wow - that is really biting - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:44:24
                         4smugs is a smug troll - SwampTiger MU - 7/29 09:39:05
                              I agree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:43:33
                                   smug = highly self-satisfied, troll= DOC like figure (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/29 09:45:24
                                        I agree with half of that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:47:06
     The actual predicate question is why does the federal - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/29 09:03:00
          That is certainly a fair question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:06:11
               It is actually the same issue. Why does the federal - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/29 09:24:03
               it isn’t a different issue (nm) - pickle MU - 7/29 09:08:10
     false premise (nm) - pickle MU - 7/29 08:57:58
          false premise pitched by Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, etc..nm - tigertix MU - 7/29 09:00:52
               RE: false premise pitched by Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, etc..nm - pickle MU - 7/29 09:05:13
                    One trick pony strikes again....Ha-ha nm - tigertix MU - 7/29 09:17:30
                         answer the question (nm) - pickle MU - 7/29 09:20:34
     I've already answered the question with a no. - kmawv8 MU - 7/29 08:53:51
          they have the power of printing - meatiger MU - 7/29 08:57:06
          Indeed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:55:43
               "Should the federal government bailout...." - kmawv8 MU - 7/29 08:58:06
                    Hey - a simple answer to a simple question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:00:24
                         I answered no right off that bat for you. - kmawv8 MU - 7/29 09:02:23
                              Because I don't know any major GOP member of congress - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:05:31
                                   you’re being dishonest - pickle MU - 7/29 09:10:44
                                        He does it to even fool himself and he's not the only one. - kmawv8 MU - 7/29 09:24:26
                                             Because he has limited himself - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:26:06
                                                  No meat, I have said I will vote for the best candidate - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:27:21
                                                       that’s illogical and incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 7/29 09:29:53
                                                       And outside of the odd local election - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:28:36
                                                            Yes, that is the reality right now - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:29:29
     Instead of fed tax dollars, why not just take it from the - MIZ45 MU - 7/29 08:52:17
          Hell, the BHO cronies suggested stealing 401ks..nm - tigertix MU - 7/29 08:56:56
     Who is worse...states of the Fed government? - meatiger MU - 7/29 08:51:17
          So you can't answer a simple question either - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:53:47
               I don't support the bailouts - meatiger MU - 7/29 08:55:26
                    Show me where I said it should - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:56:59
                         so only "Dem states" - meatiger MU - 7/29 08:58:22
                              Can you show me where I said that? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:01:12
                                   It was in your OP(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:01:52
                                        No red states are asking for billions to bail out their - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:07:32
                                             Red states are always asking - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:09:42
                                                  And I have never said otherwise meat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:11:28
                                                       you will always say you support less government - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:13:41
                                                            Care to tell everyone again how I supported the $6T bailout? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:16:02
                                                                 you supported the $6T bailout (nm) - pickle MU - 7/29 09:30:29
     They don't deserve a dadgum dime (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 7/29 08:49:59
     California & New York are awful and shouldn't be bailed out - kmawv8 MU - 7/29 08:47:43
          Show me where I have defended out of control spending - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:49:28
               you supported the $6T “stimulus” (nm) - pickle MU - 7/29 09:00:25
               You supported the $6 trillion bailout - meatiger MU - 7/29 08:54:01
                    Show me one time I said I support the $6B bailout - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:59:08
                         6 trillion - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:01:15
                              That is true - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:02:36
                                   well - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:06:25
                                        How can you say you don't know what I did and did - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:09:01
                                             It is called "hyperbole" - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:10:57
                                                  Nice try - that isn't hyperbole. It is either lying or being - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:12:32
                                   Call the spending whatever you want, - kmawv8 MU - 7/29 09:04:53
                                        I supported compensating businesses for direct losses - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:10:04
                                             A lot is wrong with that. - kmawv8 MU - 7/29 09:20:19
                                                  No, the implementation was horrible. The $6T was an - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:24:23
                                                       How can you support something government does, - kmawv8 MU - 7/29 09:29:52
                                                       By your analogy - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:25:29
                                                            I don't think so - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:28:51
                                                                 RE: I don't think so - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:37:07
                                                                      I didn't say the economy should be made whole meat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:49:06
                                             what is wrong with that??? LOL - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:11:53
                                                  Yes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:14:42
                                                       Here is what is wrong with it - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:19:09
                                                            And here is the simple answer to that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:22:26
                                                                 No..the problem is the enabler - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:24:04
                                                                      And I agree with that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:25:39
                                                                           to extend the parent analogy - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:27:47
                                                                                That is simple meat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:33:23
                                                                                     But government is not a "person" - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:38:31
                                                                                          And perhaps that is an issue to be dealt with - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:45:26
                                                                                               innocent people will pay the price in this - meatiger MU - 7/29 09:51:19
                                                                                                    And our debt is a national shame - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:57:31
                                                                                                         "we actually owe others rightly" - meatiger MU - 7/29 10:02:36
                                                                                                              I am dealing in the here and now - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 10:14:49
                                                                                                                   so a governor orders your business to be close - meatiger MU - 7/29 10:20:12
               Your target for this particular question is aimed at - kmawv8 MU - 7/29 08:50:42
                    You're wasting your time... - Gyro MU - 7/29 08:53:32
                         What big point? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:54:48
                              I answered your question very directly even though it wasn't - kmawv8 MU - 7/29 08:56:50
                                   Because that is a key issue in the news right now - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:18:04
                              RE: What big point? - Gyro MU - 7/29 08:55:56
                    Because this is a key issue being addressed right now in - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:53:15
                         i love how you focus on the fight - meatiger MU - 7/29 08:56:26
                              I believe you can do both - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:20:00
     First explain why as a Republican you're suddenly... - Gyro MU - 7/29 08:43:40
          First, point out where I ever said I was a penny pincher - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:45:01
               You're the one who's all angry and upset this morning... - Gyro MU - 7/29 08:46:50
                    Who was upset and angry? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:48:03
                         Man, you are really bringing the heat this morning... - Gyro MU - 7/29 08:49:34
                              It was a simple question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:50:50
                                   I have addressed it... - Gyro MU - 7/29 08:52:53
                    You going to answer the question? - Calca STL - 7/29 08:47:07
     Agreed, we need to save up every penny of our money - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/29 08:41:02
          I knew the weak minded could not even attempt to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:41:47
               No, we're both pointing out the utter ignorance... - Gyro MU - 7/29 08:44:39
                    And what does that have to do with my question? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:46:04
                         Well see there's your problem... - Gyro MU - 7/29 08:48:27
                              I have spoken often of Trump's utter failure in this area - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:50:25
                                   Yeah, that's another thing, I don't subscribe to your... - Gyro MU - 7/29 08:51:37
                                        I do have a substantial ego - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:35:03
               Well, that's going to be the biggest problem as it pertains - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/29 08:44:13
                    I asked for a rationale - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:46:40
                         My rationale is that taxation is theft. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/29 08:49:05
                              I disagree that taxation is theft - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:52:01
                                   it’s not a matter of opinion. taxation is theft (nm) - pickle MU - 7/29 08:59:11
                                   Well you're getting your ass handed to you in this thread. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/29 08:54:04
                                        Yeah, really getting pounded here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 09:35:43
                         maybe because he doesn't support it 4smugs (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/29 08:48:06
                    It cracks me up that these Trumpers don't seem... - Gyro MU - 7/29 08:45:28
                         The blue states sure gave a lot in pension and other - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/29 08:47:32
                         I don't analyze that and don't give two ****s. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/29 08:46:15
     get ready for the "blue states prop up red states" B.S. (nm) - Sal MU - 7/29 08:39:43
          sorry, can't see any propping going on at all, just all fall - 90Tiger STL - 7/29 08:44:29
               All the dominoes have fallen - meatiger MU - 7/29 08:52:06




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