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it isn't a matter of definitions

Posted on: July 16, 2020 at 14:24:25 CT
ashtray UF
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it's a matter of whether or not the mother has an obligation to raise the child after giving birth to it. Like I said above, that's a separate issue from abortion.
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Should have been killed, dismembered, burned and dumped - hokie VT - 7/16 13:10:53
     You sound like a barbaric Muslim - El-ahrairah BAMA - 7/16 13:59:28
     Is this that strong libertarian streak of yours? - pickle MU - 7/16 13:21:44
     There is no logical reason to execute anyone. - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:15:24
          RE: There is no logical reason to execute anyone. - MOCO SON MU - 7/16 13:21:30
               Morally, there is no reason to execute anyone - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:28:38
                    RE: Morally, there is no reason to execute anyone - tigerNkc MU - 7/16 13:41:35
                         Agreed. No-one can be pro-life/pro-death penalty - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:44:26
               That's due to virtue signaling lawyers. There needs to be - hokie VT - 7/16 13:25:14
                    RE: That's due to virtue signaling lawyers. There needs to be - MOCO SON MU - 7/16 13:27:14
               wow (nm) - pickle MU - 7/16 13:24:01
          Agree here. Does his execution deter future crime in any - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/16 13:19:33
               That's the old wives tale. The liberal truism that is not - hokie VT - 7/16 13:21:12
                    it’s murder (nm) - pickle MU - 7/16 13:22:18
                         Is abortion murder? - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:31:44
                              “legal rights” is irrelevant - pickle MU - 7/16 13:56:37
                                   To you it is irrelevant. Both are the premeditated killing - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:03:32
                                        it’s irrelevant because we are talking natural rights - pickle MU - 7/16 14:08:40
                                             YOU are talking natural rights.(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:11:30
                              they're both murder(nm) - dangertim MU - 7/16 13:37:33
                                   They sure should be... - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:38:30
                                        that’s not really your decision to make (nm) - pickle MU - 7/16 14:07:17
                                             Wrong board, dumb@$$(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:08:32
                                                  you’re the one who brought up abortion (nm) - pickle MU - 7/16 14:09:09
                                                       You are the one who brought up "decisions to make" - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:12:52
                              debatable in the case of abortion - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:35:02
                                   Both are human lives being executed - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:37:50
                                        but regardless of my view - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:40:41
                                             i’ve been saying the same for years(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 7/16 13:43:36
                                                  then you're the second Republican (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:44:05
                                        the difference being - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:39:34
                                             and if that mother gives birth in a toilet and lets that - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:50:29
                                                  I believe - ashtray UF - 7/16 14:00:45
                                                       The newborn is a parasite that is incapable of surviving - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:09:21
                                                            lol no (nm) - pickle MU - 7/16 14:33:33
                                                                 lol..yes. If you define a fetus as a parasite, then a - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:55:50
                                                            a parasite to whom? - ashtray UF - 7/16 14:11:22
                                                                 English lesson - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:16:23
                                                                      it isn't a matter of definitions - ashtray UF - 7/16 14:24:25
                                                                           It is when you decide that the definition of parasite - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:49:36
                                                                                then I ask you again - ashtray UF - 7/16 14:54:56
                                                                                     anyone who keeps it alive. How is this hard or you - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:57:03
                                                                                          so at that point it's no longer a parasite on the mother - ashtray UF - 7/16 15:16:53
                                                                                               Yet it remains a parasite for several years in order to - Spanky KU - 7/16 15:19:27
                                                                                                    ok? - ashtray UF - 7/16 15:20:00
                                                                                                         A parasite is a parasite.... - Spanky KU - 7/16 15:55:25
                                                                                                              but what does that have to do with the rights of the - ashtray UF - 7/16 15:56:27
                                                                                                                   She doesn't have the right to kill something that is not - Spanky KU - 7/16 16:11:37
                                                                                                                        but she does have the right of self ownership - ashtray UF - 7/16 16:19:23
                                                                                                                             Fail. Killing someone not threatening your life is not a - Spanky KU - 7/16 16:22:29
                                                                                                                                  you're failing at the definition of "someone" - ashtray UF - 7/16 16:26:34
                                                                                                                                       Wrong again. (nm) - Spanky KU - 7/16 16:34:12
                                                                                                                                            it's ok. sometimes you're right - ashtray UF - 7/16 16:36:08
                                             RE: the difference being - MOCO SON MU - 7/16 13:40:36
                                                  it isn't a rationalization - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:41:48
                                                       RE: it isn't a rationalization - MOCO SON MU - 7/16 13:42:35
                                                            sure they do - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:43:32
                              Before a certain week, certainly not. It is certainly no - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/16 13:34:14
                                   It is human life at conception per science - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:36:50
                                        Well, per your preferred "scientific" source. A zygote that - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/16 13:40:44
                                             Massive failure. A sperm and egg are not human life - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:42:39
                                                  They are potential human life, just like a zygote is. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/16 13:43:54
                                                       a fertilized egg is human life (per science) - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:45:19
          How many people in prison for life were released? And how - hokie VT - 7/16 13:19:27
               There is Life Without Parole (LWOP) sentencing - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:26:17
                    Anyone with LWOP ever get out? nm - hokie VT - 7/16 13:28:22
                         I can't find any examples... can you?(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:41:25
                         anyone innocent ever executed? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/16 13:29:52
               So eye for an eye sharia-type “justice”? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/16 13:23:20
               Death penalties cost far more than life imprisonment nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/16 13:22:17




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