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Posted on: July 16, 2020 at 14:00:45 CT

ashtray UF

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M.O.B. Votes:

that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration

care for a child is a separate issue from abortion

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Should have been killed, dismembered, burned and dumped - hokie VT - 7/16 13:10:53

You sound like a barbaric Muslim - El-ahrairah BAMA - 7/16 13:59:28

Is this that strong libertarian streak of yours? - pickle MU

- 7/16 13:21:44

There is no logical reason to execute anyone. - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:15:24

RE: There is no logical reason to execute anyone. - MOCO SON MU - 7/16 13:21:30

Morally, there is no reason to execute anyone - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:28:38

RE: Morally, there is no reason to execute anyone - tigerNkc MU

- 7/16 13:41:35

Agreed. No-one can be pro-life/pro-death penalty - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:44:26

That's due to virtue signaling lawyers. There needs to be - hokie VT - 7/16 13:25:14

RE: That's due to virtue signaling lawyers. There needs to be - MOCO SON MU - 7/16 13:27:14

wow (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/16 13:24:01

Agree here. Does his execution deter future crime in any - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/16 13:19:33

That's the old wives tale. The liberal truism that is not - hokie VT - 7/16 13:21:12

it’s murder (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/16 13:22:18

Is abortion murder? - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:31:44

“legal rights” is irrelevant - pickle MU

- 7/16 13:56:37

To you it is irrelevant. Both are the premeditated killing - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:03:32

it’s irrelevant because we are talking natural rights - pickle MU

- 7/16 14:08:40

YOU are talking natural rights.(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:11:30

they're both murder(nm) - dangertim MU

- 7/16 13:37:33

They sure should be... - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:38:30

that’s not really your decision to make (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/16 14:07:17

Wrong board, dumb@$$(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:08:32

you’re the one who brought up abortion (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/16 14:09:09

You are the one who brought up "decisions to make" - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:12:52

debatable in the case of abortion - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:35:02

Both are human lives being executed - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:37:50

but regardless of my view - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:40:41

i’ve been saying the same for years(nm) - tigerNkc MU

- 7/16 13:43:36

then you're the second Republican (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:44:05

the difference being - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:39:34

and if that mother gives birth in a toilet and lets that - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:50:29

I believe - ashtray UF - 7/16 14:00:45

The newborn is a parasite that is incapable of surviving - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:09:21

lol no (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/16 14:33:33

lol..yes. If you define a fetus as a parasite, then a - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:55:50

a parasite to whom? - ashtray UF - 7/16 14:11:22

English lesson - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:16:23

it isn't a matter of definitions - ashtray UF - 7/16 14:24:25

It is when you decide that the definition of parasite - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:49:36

then I ask you again - ashtray UF - 7/16 14:54:56

anyone who keeps it alive. How is this hard or you - Spanky KU - 7/16 14:57:03

so at that point it's no longer a parasite on the mother - ashtray UF - 7/16 15:16:53

Yet it remains a parasite for several years in order to - Spanky KU - 7/16 15:19:27

ok? - ashtray UF - 7/16 15:20:00

A parasite is a parasite.... - Spanky KU - 7/16 15:55:25

but what does that have to do with the rights of the - ashtray UF - 7/16 15:56:27

She doesn't have the right to kill something that is not - Spanky KU - 7/16 16:11:37

but she does have the right of self ownership - ashtray UF - 7/16 16:19:23

Fail. Killing someone not threatening your life is not a - Spanky KU - 7/16 16:22:29

you're failing at the definition of "someone" - ashtray UF - 7/16 16:26:34

Wrong again. (nm) - Spanky KU - 7/16 16:34:12

it's ok. sometimes you're right - ashtray UF - 7/16 16:36:08

RE: the difference being - MOCO SON MU - 7/16 13:40:36

it isn't a rationalization - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:41:48

RE: it isn't a rationalization - MOCO SON MU - 7/16 13:42:35

sure they do - ashtray UF - 7/16 13:43:32

Before a certain week, certainly not. It is certainly no - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/16 13:34:14

It is human life at conception per science - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:36:50

Well, per your preferred "scientific" source. A zygote that - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/16 13:40:44

Massive failure. A sperm and egg are not human life - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:42:39

They are potential human life, just like a zygote is. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/16 13:43:54

a fertilized egg is human life (per science) - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:45:19

How many people in prison for life were released? And how - hokie VT - 7/16 13:19:27

There is Life Without Parole (LWOP) sentencing - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:26:17

Anyone with LWOP ever get out? nm - hokie VT - 7/16 13:28:22

I can't find any examples... can you?(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/16 13:41:25

anyone innocent ever executed? (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/16 13:29:52

So eye for an eye sharia-type “justice”? (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/16 13:23:20

Death penalties cost far more than life imprisonment nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/16 13:22:17