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as ashtray, the government doesn't have rights. They are

Posted on: May 19, 2020 at 11:36:54 CT

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prohibited to infringe on the citizens rights.

Edited by dangertim at 11:37:05 on 05/19/20

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Dershowitz: ‘You Have No Right to Not Be Vaccinated,’ - JeffB MU

- 5/19 10:29:09

Constitutional Basis of Mandatory Vaccination - CDC summary - JeffB MU

- 5/19 12:24:31

I don't like it, but he's right. - dangertim MU

- 5/19 11:22:18

That's the wrong question - BigDave MU - 5/19 12:19:32

I respect this opinion(nm) - dangertim MU

- 5/19 12:46:12

self-ownership (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/19 11:42:03

uh...wut? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/19 12:39:20

are you talking natural or constitutional right of self - dangertim MU

- 5/19 11:47:01

natural right (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/19 11:54:24

I agree. I don't think the lawyer above is an expert in - dangertim MU

- 5/19 11:55:41

What happened to - Wildcat KSU - 5/19 11:33:23

LOL. The right for the government to inject something into - North co-co champs MU - 5/19 11:30:13

there’s flouride in the water supply (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/19 11:54:54

as ashtray, the government doesn't have rights. They are - dangertim MU

- 5/19 11:36:54

Technically he's right. The citizens have guaranteed rights - North co-co champs MU - 5/19 11:41:08

government doesn't have rights - ashtray UF - 5/19 11:31:40

I agree with that... or at the very least, they only have - North co-co champs MU - 5/19 11:38:16

The burden of proof is on those who think the state has a - JeffB MU

- 5/19 11:29:07

SCOTUS has decided gvmt has the right to do so - pickle MU

- 5/19 11:43:12

this isn't a criminal trial. What do you mean burden of - dangertim MU

- 5/19 11:37:34

The 'burden of proof' is not exclusive to criminal trials. - JeffB MU

- 5/19 11:40:40

Property right, right to your own body. If this is true, th - 90Tiger STL - 5/19 11:28:52

a needle in the arm is not a tracker. I could argue - dangertim MU

- 5/19 11:39:04

RE: a needle in the arm is not a tracker. I could argue - 90Tiger STL - 5/19 12:42:51

and if i don't want the contents of the needle - whether a - 90Tiger STL - 5/19 12:40:11

what if I don't want a vaccine? - ashtray UF - 5/19 11:39:50

I'm with you bud, but we're talking about - dangertim MU

- 5/19 11:41:42

i disagree - pickle MU

- 5/19 12:42:45

I get it - constitutional v. natural right discussion. no s - 90Tiger STL - 5/19 12:41:14

rights aren't granted by the Constitution - ashtray UF - 5/19 11:43:22

see this - 90Tiger STL - 5/19 12:41:41

I agree. Is derpowitz talking natural rights?(nm) - dangertim MU

- 5/19 11:46:38

I don't listen to anything he says, so I have no idea (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/19 11:48:22

you may wish to go back to START then (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/19 12:42:08

that requires me to read another JeffB link - ashtray UF - 5/19 13:41:16

I didn't read it either. ^5(nm) - dangertim MU

- 5/19 11:54:08

I don't either (nm) - Sal MU

- 5/19 11:31:51

Derpowitz - JG A - 5/19 11:19:23

So much for My Body, My Choice (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/19 10:53:30

Quite the contradiction, huh?(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 11:17:32

only if he’s ever made that argument (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/19 12:05:23

he’s right (nm) - pickle MU

- 5/19 10:46:00

articulate the position, I don't get it. he's not arguing t - 90Tiger STL - 5/19 11:27:35

Do you understand English? - JG A - 5/19 11:18:34

This guy is nuts, first he defends DJT from the tyranny of - tigertix MU - 5/19 10:31:44

'citizens have “no right” to refuse to wear a mask or refuse - JeffB MU

- 5/19 10:34:29

He's a hack that will say whatever he's paid to - ashtray UF - 5/19 10:30:48

You're 1000% spot on....nm - tigertix MU - 5/19 10:32:14