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You don't need success at a P5 conference to be proven...

Posted on: December 10, 2019 at 00:39:03 CT
zounami MU
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Do you remember how much I advocated for Rhule to be hired in 2015?

That was based on his track record of success at Temple, and the experience he had prior to that job.

If it was that clear to me, it should have been clear to our AD and BoC. When Rhoades cancelled the negotiations, our BoC should have intervened like they did when Sterk informed them that his choices were Blake Anderson and the service academy coaches.
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$4 MILLION per year for the 1-year Appalachian State coach?! - zounami MU - 12/9 21:56:56
     Shows how hard it is to hire a coach at MU - Jeff85 MU - 12/9 23:48:44
          That depends on the Athletic Director. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/9 23:49:34
               big time coaches have never considered MU as a - Jeff85 MU - 12/9 23:54:45
                    That's not true. We've had opportunities to hire excellent - zounami MU - 12/9 23:58:21
                         you haven't named any established big time coaches - Jeff85 MU - 12/10 00:53:43
                              I named 4 in the past 20 years. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:55:37
                                   You really didn't.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 01:31:33
                                        Anyone can see below that I did. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 01:39:34
                         Name one.. just one.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:00:28
                              Bill Snyder. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:03:41
                                   Bill Snyder was unproven.. just an OC.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:05:04
                                        Wrong again. He was proven enough for K-State to hire him. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:05:42
                                             So was Ron Prince right? Or do only count hires that work - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:09:17
                                                  You missed the point entirely. We had an opportunity to hire - zounami MU - 12/10 00:11:26
                                                       Bill Self was a nobody next to Quin Snyder. Quin didn't - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:15:28
                                                       Opportunity doesn't mean someone was proven. It is - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:13:30
                                                            Here's the statement you were disputing: - zounami MU - 12/10 00:17:37
                                                                 Calipari was untouchable because of who he is and his - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:21:24
                                                                      You don't need success at a P5 conference to be proven... - zounami MU - 12/10 00:39:03
                                                                           Yes you do. It isn't proven until you've had success at - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 01:32:55
                                                                                No, it's all FBS. We'll have to agree to disagree. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 01:38:51
                                                                                     There are many G5 coaches that suck once they get to P5. - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 01:43:33
                                                                                          The same can be said for P5 coaches. Look at Bielema... - zounami MU - 12/10 01:50:40
                                                                                               You struggle to understand what proven means. A guy - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 01:56:04
                                                                                                    "Proven" depends on the IQ and level of insight of whomever - zounami MU - 12/10 02:02:28
                                                                      "Untouchable", yet other schools not named Mizzou hired him. - zounami MU - 12/10 00:34:48
                                                                           Kentucky is one of the most penalized NCAA programs(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 01:37:41
                                                                                and one of the most successful (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 01:39:05
                                             By your retarded logic Drinkwitz was proven to be a $4 - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:08:43
                                                  Only if he becomes as successful as Bill Snyder. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:09:23
                                                       So it isn't f**king proven you retard. It is all a gamble.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:10:38
                                                            First of all, calm down. Second, you keep missing the point. - zounami MU - 12/10 00:12:02
                              Matt Rhule. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:03:21
                                   He turned down Mizzou.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:04:22
                                        Wrong. He scheduled an interview, which we cancelled. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:04:46
                                             No. That is completely wrong.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:05:23
                                                  You're in denial. I've listed several coaches and you're in - zounami MU - 12/10 00:06:30
                                                       You are really f**king stupid and just proving that more.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:09:52
                                                            Are you hyperventilating? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:12:26
                                                  It's 100% factually correct. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:05:56
                              John Calipari. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:03:13
                                   Calipari had a scumbag rep and NCAA trouble (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:06:30
                                        And yet, other schools hired him. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:07:00
                              Bill Self. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:02:50
                                   Bill Self was a Tulsa coach. Not proven. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 12/10 00:03:53
                                        He was proven enough for Illinois to hire him. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/10 00:04:29
     You're gonna ***** about it after you post this? - TigerMatt STL - 12/9 23:48:20
          You completely missed the point. The goal isn't to spend - zounami MU - 12/9 23:56:01
          And there it is. (nm) - the808bass MU - 12/9 23:50:26
               If Drinkwitz got $2 million he's ***** Mizzou was going - TigerMatt STL - 12/9 23:56:21
                    $2 million is unrealistic. $2.8-$3 million is what we should - zounami MU - 12/10 00:00:01
     When was the last time you were happy.....about anything? - MoGold MU - 12/9 23:41:46
          First of all, check the thread above. Second, how does being - zounami MU - 12/9 23:49:04
     An increase of ~2000 per game attendance pays for it (nm) - the808bass MU - 12/9 23:21:16
          Dumb. You could rationalize any salary that way. An increase - zounami MU - 12/9 23:34:51
               Why do you think we made the hire? To generate excitement - the808bass MU - 12/9 23:39:52
     RE: $4 MILLION per year for the 1-year Appalachian State coach?! - tigerick MU - 12/9 22:56:17
          Dumb reasoning - MoArk MU - 12/9 23:01:15
               correct... some of these replies are indescribably stupid (nm) - zounami MU - 12/9 23:11:55
                    yes, some are (nm) - the808bass MU - 12/9 23:24:56
     RE: $4 MILLION per year for the 1-year Appalachian State coach?! - MOCO SON MU - 12/9 22:29:25
          I am grateful that the BoC took over and ensured that we - zounami MU - 12/9 22:33:04
               No, you're grateful to manufacture a b!tch out of something. - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:35:43
                    I gave credit to the BoC, and you're trying to twist it into - zounami MU - 12/9 22:41:56
                         Who do you think approves the 4 million to get the guy? - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:47:35
                              The BoC doesn't negotiate the deal. Sterk put them between - zounami MU - 12/9 22:49:42
     lol - Mr. Socko MU - 12/9 22:23:15
     let's be honest about this - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 22:22:26
          That approach would be fine if we had an infinite AD budget. - zounami MU - 12/9 22:32:20
               Your assuming we would have gotten him or anyone - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:33:53
                    A good, competent AD absolutely could have done better - zounami MU - 12/9 22:39:30
     Roger that - MoArk MU - 12/9 22:12:45
          He could have hired him for less than 3 and taken - blitz2win MU - 12/9 22:15:32
               You have no idea, LOL (nm) - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:16:57
                    Nope and why should they care. It isn't their money. - Jmill88 MU - 12/9 22:19:47
     Not your money. Who cares?(nm) - TigerA MU - 12/9 22:09:30
          ZOUNAMI IS A DADGUM BILLIONAIRE!!1 HE DRIVES A PORSCHEE!!1 - Mothball MU - 12/9 22:12:58
     I AM SO DADGUM FRUSTRATED!!!!!1 GOLL DURN!!!!1 - Mothball MU - 12/9 22:09:25
     Sterk is an idiot, you could have hired Drink for 3 - blitz2win MU - 12/9 22:09:21
          I was expecting $2.7 million (nm) - zounami MU - 12/9 22:12:10
               and you would've b*tched about that because you are a - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:15:55
                    by the way, if you had read the OP then you would have - zounami MU - 12/9 22:18:43
                         B*tchy McB*tcherson(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:19:22
                              weird (nm) - zounami MU - 12/9 22:20:00
                    Yup, we would have lost him to Arkansas and then hired - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:18:21
                    wrong (nm) - zounami MU - 12/9 22:16:21
                         I just proved it with your own words, b*tchy mcb*tcherson(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:18:20
                              wrong... - zounami MU - 12/9 22:19:25
                                   B*tchy McB*tcherson(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:20:07
                                        weird (nm) - zounami MU - 12/9 22:33:21
               Word is that Arkansas was interested in him too. - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:13:32
          Not if someone else, like Arkansas, was willing to give him - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:11:53
               Drink was not a hot commodity - blitz2win MU - 12/9 22:13:33
                    Neither was Sean McVeigh(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:14:45
                    Arkansas was said to have interest in him. (nm) - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:14:16
                         lol... well then, if that's what the agent says then let's - zounami MU - 12/9 22:15:32
                    correct (nm) - zounami MU - 12/9 22:14:08
               have you ever negotiated a 7- or 8-figure deal? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/9 22:13:24
          Sterk doesnt set or approve the salaries or budgets(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:10:16
               hes the AD - blitz2win MU - 12/9 22:11:38
                    Never said he wasn't involved. I said he doesnt set or - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:13:54
     RE: $4 MILLION per year for the 1-year Appalachian State coach?! - Jmill88 MU - 12/9 22:05:55
     RE: $4 MILLION per year for the 1-year Appalachian State coach?! - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:03:46
     Eh, sterk makes over $700k...we pay out like a slot machine(nm) - TigerAlum91 MU - 12/9 22:03:07
     This is a good thing man. It makes MU way more desirable. - jrmtiger MU - 12/9 22:00:52
          At least a program like Indiana can't poach him away - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:02:38
     RE: $4 MILLION per year for the 1-year Appalachian State coach?! - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:00:39
          Hey, stupid. You only pay what he’s worth - MoArk MU - 12/9 22:15:51
               How much does Smart make? How many years was he HC - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:17:30
          The point of that post is that we should hire proven coaches - zounami MU - 12/9 22:03:58
               What proven coaches are coming for 4 million? - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:08:15
                    ART BRILES!(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:08:54
                         Heck, he'd probably come for minimum wage right now. - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:10:23
               That you complain a lot(nm) - Jmill88 MU - 12/9 22:07:07
                    He was going to complain no matter what - MKrip MU - 12/9 22:16:29
                    He is by far the biggest b*tch ever on TB and it isnt even - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:07:56
               He walks into como with more championship rings than - hefeweizen MU - 12/9 22:05:31
                    zounami is an idiot, but you're forgetting - dangertim MU - 12/9 22:36:29
                    a 1-year coach that inherited a turn-key operation from the - zounami MU - 12/9 22:06:03
     Thanks for the original thought - meatiger MU - 12/9 22:00:07
     This post deserves a response from Mothball......nm - HDTiger MU - 12/9 21:59:34
     SHOCKING!(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 12/9 21:57:28




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