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would it really be worse? (nm)
Posted on: September 18, 2019 at 15:23:46 CT
wu-tangtiger
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Here’s an idea for letting athletes get paid from
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 14:39:01
RE: Here’s an idea for letting athletes get paid from
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MOCO SON
MU
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9/18 16:54:56
Are you a communist? Seriously - those that deliver
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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9/18 19:28:30
Athletes who don't want to play for non-profit universities
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zounami
MU
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9/18 19:41:51
It's not a matter of whether they can opt out -
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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9/18 19:58:45
are Those teams on the video game?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 16:58:56
RE: are Those teams on the video game?
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MOCO SON
MU
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9/18 17:28:35
They can try to market themselves and their sport
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 17:38:17
RE: They can try to market themselves and their sport
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MOCO SON
MU
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9/18 22:14:34
Whoever pays them shouldn't be associated with any school
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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9/18 15:31:37
I can accept a plan where they can make deals on their
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alwaysright
MU
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9/18 16:09:55
Some of these schools have passionate billionaire boosters
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:15:56
It's just an example of ratio, not a prediction of actual
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alwaysright
MU
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9/19 08:03:18
like the 200k that Newton got? (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 16:19:12
Yes, that would become commonplace.... except it would
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:21:52
its Already commonplace.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 16:26:00
even in Newton's case, he didn't receive the money directly
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:46:07
at 1 point colleges were allowed more scholarships
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 16:51:07
Loans are a bad idea (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 15:42:06
Agents could only get reimbursed from future FOOTBALL earnin
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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9/18 18:29:25
why? (nm)
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zounami
MU
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9/18 15:56:28
How is it not a bad idea (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 16:05:16
It would allow your high-value recruits to get an advance
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:08:13
RE: It would allow your high-value recruits to get an advance
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SEMO_Hillbilly
MU
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9/18 16:45:45
That's an interesting idea to explore. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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9/18 15:35:55
Makes sense, which means the NCAA will reject it (nm)
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ChinaTiger
KC
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9/18 14:48:40
The NCAA's ideas & policies are good, it's just their
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zounami
MU
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9/18 14:53:40
It's their goal to make lots of money that makes them suck
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ChinaTiger
KC
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9/18 16:46:17
This is fine as long as royalties are distributed evenly to
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zounami
MU
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9/18 14:47:24
Would be nice to do that, either the game would become
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BlackFlagTiger
MU
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9/18 14:59:07
The only way that pay-for-play works in the NCAA is if every
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/18 14:56:15
I don't know if you've noticed
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zodiac6
JC
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9/18 15:04:26
That's where you a wu-tang are missing the point
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Genco98
MU
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9/18 15:26:10
I get that point just fine
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zodiac6
JC
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9/18 15:53:18
Then why are fans going?
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Genco98
MU
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9/18 17:12:06
I don’t know why you keep quoting that phrase
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zodiac6
JC
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9/18 18:06:37
horsecock. i'd stop giving a rip if there wasn't local
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90Tiger
STL
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9/18 19:03:57
I bet you haven't been to in 20 years
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Genco98
MU
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9/18 18:20:55
You can keep telling yourself that all you want.
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zodiac6
JC
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9/18 18:45:25
He's right. I'm a College FB fan but not an NFL fan. If my
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zounami
MU
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9/18 19:27:19
Why charge $50 for a decent ticket
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 17:17:17
My point is the fans aren't going because
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Genco98
MU
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9/18 17:49:11
I didn’t see those fans when KA
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 17:52:58
Most fans won't pay for a product that isn't competitive...
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zounami
MU
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9/18 20:07:55
Huh?
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Genco98
MU
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9/18 18:02:37
Right, if it was just about the university
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 18:22:26
Why do think Mizzou had a die hard group 40,000 fan that
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Genco98
MU
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9/18 18:47:54
so You must be in the die hard group
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 18:52:33
What in the world does that have to do with paying players
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Genco98
MU
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9/19 08:46:02
To fund the Athletic Department and its programs which
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zounami
MU
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9/18 17:23:11
Then why pay the coaches
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 17:25:35
because if you don't they'll take their services to the pro
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zounami
MU
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9/18 17:33:40
why wouldn’t you have a chance on those types of players?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 15:33:15
I hope you are kidding
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Genco98
MU
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9/18 15:50:25
The California schools (UCLA, USC, Cal, Stanford) didn't
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zounami
MU
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9/18 15:55:02
Why do you support team salary caps?...
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zounami
MU
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9/18 15:36:57
I’m still waiting on the data to support your assertion
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 15:43:09
The data is what happened to the pro leagues and why they
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zounami
MU
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9/18 15:51:56
Wrong: The salary cap is NFL owners colluding to use their
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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9/18 16:05:58
RE: Wrong: The salary cap is NFL owners colluding to use their
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SEMO_Hillbilly
MU
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9/18 16:48:37
he's an obvious troll (nm)
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zounami
MU
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9/18 17:12:51
The irony of this post is breaking the universe.(nm)
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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9/18 17:34:18
That's another reason. The bidding wars for players would
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:09:41
I really believe you have a disorder of some type.(nm)
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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9/18 16:10:20
no counterpoint?... just resort to personal attacks (nm)
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:13:17
If I say 'blue sky' and you say 'I prefer chocolate sundaes'
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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9/18 16:18:02
College players wouldn’t be paid by the schools
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 16:04:29
Boosters are considered agents/associates of the school...
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:11:38
then define what constitutes a players likeness
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 16:18:25
sometimes it seems like you're replying to another post...
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:32:18
Correct, seasons like 2007 and 2013 would no longer be
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zounami
MU
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9/18 15:29:28
"There's already a competitive imbalance, so let's make it
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zounami
MU
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9/18 15:22:32
Payment for endorsement work based on a player’s
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zodiac6
JC
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9/18 15:59:07
RE: Payment for endorsement work based on a player’s
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SEMO_Hillbilly
MU
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9/18 16:53:56
Not really true
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zodiac6
JC
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9/18 18:39:45
135,000 *real* followers could be monetized....
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zounami
MU
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9/18 19:16:56
Whatever helps you defend your argument to yourself.
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zodiac6
JC
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9/18 19:38:15
So you think McKinney legitimately has 3 times more fans
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zounami
MU
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9/18 19:58:35
by the way, McKinney has virtually the same number of
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zounami
MU
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9/18 20:04:15
instagram must lie on the number of followers
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 19:28:21
You don't know what a fake follower is in social media?...
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zounami
MU
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9/18 19:32:15
You can still earn off of the bots
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 19:36:40
Wait, do you really think McKinney has 3 times more fans
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zounami
MU
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9/18 19:54:12
so naive... "Sorry Mizzou, but one of A&M's boosters is
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:05:58
You act as if car dealerships don’t exist in Missouri
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zodiac6
JC
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9/18 18:47:56
You act as if you don't understand that the "endorsement"
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zounami
MU
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9/18 19:23:08
You have nothing to support a single bit of that.
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zodiac6
JC
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9/18 19:56:41
So, you think he has as many followers as KU basketball?...
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zounami
MU
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9/18 20:00:31
Yes, I do.
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zodiac6
JC
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9/18 20:40:23
would it really be worse? (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 15:23:46
I'm not trying to make this debate uncivil, but you really
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zounami
MU
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9/18 15:25:54
I have a hard time believing the 3rd string QB
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 15:31:25
RE: I have a hard time believing the 3rd string QB
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SEMO_Hillbilly
MU
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9/18 16:58:38
Data like how many Drew Lock jerseys
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 17:02:11
Lock never would have committed to Mizzou if he could
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zounami
MU
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9/18 17:19:56
There’s no data to support that
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 17:27:03
as SEMO said....
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zounami
MU
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9/18 17:35:36
That’s where regulations come into play
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 17:39:39
let's hear some ideas on how to prevent boosters from
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zounami
MU
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9/18 17:47:20
i Have pointed out several in this thread
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 17:54:28
I don't get your point about 3rd string QB's vs staring QB's
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zounami
MU
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9/18 15:34:00
What’s not to get? (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 15:41:05
Let's assume that Mizzou's starting QB would make more
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:04:28
Not even close
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 16:06:09
You dodged both questions... congratulations. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:14:10
think about it this way
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 16:25:09
RE: think about it this way
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SEMO_Hillbilly
MU
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9/18 17:01:58
There would be bidding wars for the top 500 players in FB
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zounami
MU
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9/18 16:41:19
Neither team was loaded with players
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 16:48:14
DGB wasn't an elite recruit? (nm)
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zounami
MU
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9/18 17:21:51
Maclin wasn't an elite recruit? (nm)
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zounami
MU
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9/18 17:20:51
So 1 on each team?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 17:40:35
I was giving some examples....
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zounami
MU
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9/18 17:46:19
Are you suggesting we may as well make it worse?(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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9/18 15:18:55
I’m proposing that the doomsday scenario is already here
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zodiac6
JC
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9/18 16:05:11
It wouldn’t be that hard to add to the video game
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 16:16:48
I think you got it ass backwards. An even playing field
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GA Tiger
MU
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9/18 16:16:29
No it’s about getting paid off of their likeness
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 17:08:23
Ok. Different issue. But I still think it would
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GA Tiger
MU
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9/18 18:15:42
If you want balance you could do what they do in
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 18:24:55
I'm not for that kind of inequality. But I would
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GA Tiger
MU
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9/19 14:37:16
Yes, that's exactly what he's proposing....
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zounami
MU
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9/18 15:22:55
Yes, there’s a reason why the same 6-8 teams
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 15:12:38
That's exactly right, and what I've been saying for the past
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zounami
MU
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9/18 15:04:03