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"similar jobs"...? You were singing quite a different tune

Posted on: August 21, 2019 at 21:22:29 CT
zounami MU
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in the post I linked to.

Let's simplify this...

Who do you think has a better chance of long-term success at MU — Odom or Cuonzo?
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is Jmill88's assessment of Cuonzo's MU tenure a fair one?... - zounami MU - 8/21 21:00:12
     RE: is Jmill88's assessment of Cuonzo's MU tenure a fair one?... - bzmndan STL - 8/23 07:25:18
     I can see both perspectives being valid - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 11:59:01
          RE: I can see both perspectives being valid - HSCoach STL - 8/22 13:35:51
               Yes. Even including the Kim years as being - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 13:42:40
                    Just curious as to what you consider the modern era? - longtimereader MU - 8/22 14:47:23
                         I generally use 1975, when the tourney expanded to 32 - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 14:53:17
                              Using that time frame I could come up with a few more - longtimereader MU - 8/22 15:40:25
                                   RE: Using that time frame I could come up with a few more - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 16:26:33
                                        Which is what makes them worst - longtimereader MU - 8/22 17:07:44
                                        The disappointing thing about last season - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 16:37:05
                                             The best parallel to last year without a doubt - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 16:55:26
                                   I don't agree on 1987-88, but could see the others - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 16:05:38
                                        Hence why I asked about criteria - longtimereader MU - 8/22 16:55:22
                                             In terms of talent - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 17:01:25
                                                  Your last sentence encapsulates my point - longtimereader MU - 8/22 17:17:16
                                                       thats why I have pointed out the job done so far - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 17:24:38
                                                            Which I don't believe is the case - longtimereader MU - 8/22 18:15:41
                                                                 Haith is an example of being great - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 18:20:18
                                                                      Haith had already proven his status before he got here - longtimereader MU - 8/22 19:28:08
          If this team stays healthy - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 12:03:40
               I think that as well - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 12:05:44
                    I did mention winning helps too(nm) - tiger4real MU - 8/22 12:36:12
                         From 2009-2014 we avged 25.5 wins per season - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 12:45:51
                              Also drastically high roster turnover.(nm) - tiger4real MU - 8/22 13:00:33
     If you were Cuonzo what home game would you bring the - alstl MU - 8/22 10:11:49
          Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas... in that order (nm) - zounami MU - 8/23 04:03:46
          We play 9 home SEC games each season (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 12:00:44
               He conveniently forgot Florida, Tennessee, and Auburn... - zounami MU - 8/23 03:50:05
          Just stop (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 8/22 10:27:53
          Most top players will have already made their decision - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:18:23
               Are you saying the atmosphere at home games has no - alstl MU - 8/22 10:48:05
                    We finally have a core group of 4-year players - tiger4real MU - 8/22 11:30:14
                         I don't think that matters much - FIJItiger MU - 8/22 12:32:24
                    It does, but those visits are taken - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 10:51:15
                         They could win the national title - Genco98 MU - 8/22 16:53:02
                              That could be true, although - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 17:22:59
                         Reinforces my point - having recruits visit in offseason - alstl MU - 8/22 16:15:33
                              There were attendance problems before joining the SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 16:23:30
     Cuonzo is doing a great job. - tiger4real MU - 8/22 09:18:07
     no(nm) - Domino MU - 8/22 09:06:57
     It is not a fair assessment - Da_Haze KC - 8/22 08:28:16
          agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 8/23 00:04:20
     CM has not been a failure. He has been average - SuperTone MU - 8/22 08:16:53
          Compared to who? What were your expectations? - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 08:56:47
               Compared what to who and where? - SuperTone MU - 8/22 09:50:27
                    No it isn't. The previous 3 years of our program were some - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 09:57:37
                         I know the context. It appears average based on - SuperTone MU - 8/22 11:41:22
          he’s been well above average - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 08:39:21
               Those are not above average results for the first two years. - SuperTone MU - 8/22 11:42:27
                    no I picked coaches that took over bad situations - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 11:58:34
                    Weird, good coaches can have bad years. - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 11:53:23
               Good comparisons. Hard to argue with that.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 09:02:19
                    agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 8/23 03:53:24
          RE: CM has not been a failure. He has been average - Jmill88 MU - 8/22 08:34:57
               Odom, won't win anything in the SEC with the #13 - Da_Haze KC - 8/22 08:36:13
                    Odom will definitely need to step up his recruiting game... - zounami MU - 8/23 03:56:02
                    RE: Odom, won't win anything in the SEC with the #13 - Jmill88 MU - 8/22 08:41:07
                         We aren't winning SEC East titles with the #13 - Da_Haze KC - 8/22 13:08:09
                              Correct, and there's no excuse to get out-recruited by - zounami MU - 8/23 03:56:51
          Considering all he's had to endure, he's been above avg. - Diamond Dave MU - 8/22 08:33:40
               Which is why I think it's really premature to try and grade - longtimereader MU - 8/22 15:54:13
               Last year was pretty bad. Not sure how that would - SuperTone MU - 8/22 08:54:14
                    You also don't see coaches take over what Cuonzo did - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 09:01:13
                    progress is rarely linear - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 08:57:37
                         I agree but I watched the games. We clearly had - SuperTone MU - 8/22 11:43:47
                              I agree to some extent they maybe had the talent - longtimereader MU - 8/22 15:08:06
                              I haven’t seen many games where the coaching was the reason - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/22 12:01:33
          His first year was above average - Da_Haze KC - 8/22 08:31:20
               I wouldn't say the first year was above average. - SuperTone MU - 8/22 08:55:28
     About Cuonzo, no.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/22 07:25:03
     Way off considering where Mizzou was when - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/21 21:51:11
          agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 8/22 00:56:51
     RE: is Jmill88's assessment of Cuonzo's MU tenure a fair one?... - Jmill88 MU - 8/21 21:07:15
          "similar jobs"...? You were singing quite a different tune - zounami MU - 8/21 21:22:29
               RE: - Jmill88 MU - 8/21 21:25:22
                    if you're right about BO taking us forward and Cuonzo taking - zounami MU - 8/21 21:30:32
                         RE: if you're right about BO taking us forward and Cuonzo taking - Jmill88 MU - 8/21 21:33:06
                              "Cuonzo has a better chance moving forward than Odom"... - zounami MU - 8/21 21:40:02
                                   RE: "Cuonzo has a better chance moving forward than Odom"... - Jmill88 MU - 8/21 21:55:24
                                        The irony is that you ended up agreeing with me. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/22 01:06:20




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