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I realize "white flight" is happening everywhere

Posted on: May 21, 2019 at 08:59:31 CT
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but this conversation has been about STL, so that is what I was talking about. And while gentrification and white flight happens all over, STL does have a unique problem with funding and fighting of county vs city, that very few other cities have. KC has something similar in Missouri vs kansas funding and fighting.
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St. Louis #1---Most dangerous city in country - mu7176grad MU - 5/21 07:22:40
     Those stats cover 10.9% of the population of the area.(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 5/21 10:37:58
          it's not taking into account the square area and the county - phrejd MU - 5/21 10:57:36
               don't forget pizza!(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 5/21 11:57:24
     On a positive note, at least they are - FIJItiger MU - 5/21 09:49:46
     Most dangerous and a political disaster area - Floyd Turbo 99 - 5/21 08:17:43
          RE: Most dangerous and a political disaster area - scan MU - 5/21 08:31:30
               East of Lindbergh and north of Olive has sections that are - Floyd Turbo 99 - 5/21 08:42:54
                    RE: East of Lindbergh and north of Olive has sections that are - scan MU - 5/21 08:46:04
                         The merger is dead - BigDave MU - 5/21 09:40:50
                              RE: The merger is dead - scan MU - 5/21 09:42:27
                                   RE: The merger is dead - MrBlueSky MU - 5/21 09:48:04
                                        RE: The merger is dead - scan MU - 5/21 09:57:07
     also have a pretty good hockey team right now(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/21 08:14:25
     too many black people, right? (nm) - pickle MU - 5/21 08:02:50
          too many democrats(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 5/21 10:03:12
          probably not on the hockey team(nm) - MidwestLittleTiger STL - 5/21 09:03:36
          Is that your take--you are a creepy racist - mu7176grad MU - 5/21 08:08:53
               I’m asking you since you’ve brought it up before - pickle MU - 5/21 08:12:21
                    Yes, they are primarily the problem. We could get in to a - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:21:25
                         Nah, the real fun conversation is not why, but - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 08:22:27
                              can’t keep having solution after solution after solution - pickle MU - 5/21 08:28:07
                                   Final solution? Did Tigrrrr hack your account?(nm) - tgr MU - 5/21 08:40:22
                                        sarcasm, tgr - pickle MU - 5/21 08:46:39
                                   KKK didn't work. Slavery didn't work. - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 08:30:24
                                        Black crime was right in line with white crime when they - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:31:07
                                             Victim and entitlement mentality is hurting too - Eggs KC - 5/21 08:41:54
                                                  Well, the government is pretty well what destroyed the - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:47:03
                                                       Oh, the racist hoosiers convieniently forget that. - Stewart STL - 5/21 09:08:12
                                                            The holier than thou democrats don't want to admit - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:15:19
                                                                 Yeah. How dare they for giving them civil and voting rights, - Stewart STL - 5/21 09:17:01
                                                                      They constructed government housing projects in - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:18:47
                                                                           Reagan decimated the black community. Nice try. (nm) - Stewart STL - 5/21 09:24:15
                                                                                J'Mon's gon be J'Mon's(nm) - McMuffin MU - 5/21 09:26:25
                                                                                You are clueless. Do some research please. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:24:33
                                                                                     What do you think the war on drugs was? - MrBlueSky MU - 5/21 09:51:15
                                                                                          What do you think the construction of massive ghettos - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:53:08
                                                                                               It was a huge Dem union payoff by bigoted political - hefeweizen MU - 5/21 09:56:19
                                                                                               Redlining and targeted real estate sales in STL was - MrBlueSky MU - 5/21 09:56:01
                                                                                                    Yep. KC had prominent Dems like JC Nichols and JB Nutter - hefeweizen MU - 5/21 09:59:49
                                                                                                         Let's be clear...racist municipal policies - MrBlueSky MU - 5/21 10:03:03
                                                                                                              It was the federal government... (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 10:07:53
                                                                                                                   I'm talking about redlining policies in STL and KC (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/21 10:08:21
                                                                                                    Pruitt Igoe was portrayed as a chance to have nice housing - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:58:06
                                                       Agreed. But that doesn't mean it's their responsibility - Eggs KC - 5/21 08:52:11
                                                            Political leadership should be an extension of the people - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 09:06:19
                                                                 The poli board strongly disagrees with you (nm) - Cosmo MU - 5/21 09:40:18
                                                                      Nothing says you're right more than - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 09:45:52
                                                                           The insanity over there is truly astounding (nm) - Cosmo MU - 5/21 09:50:44
                                                                                You should venture over\ - MrBlueSky MU - 5/21 09:52:48
                                                                                     Pass. It isn’t fun. The posters are all humorless - Cosmo MU - 5/21 09:55:39
                                                  and they dont value education(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/21 08:45:26
                                                       I know several teachers around here - Eggs KC - 5/21 08:49:08
                                                            that is also true in the country. poor kids usually dont hav - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/21 08:50:33
                                                                 That's why I didn't mention black and white in my post - Eggs KC - 5/21 08:53:45
                                                                      yes, I was just putting out there since we started the - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/21 08:55:14
                                                                 It's a little worse in the black community because the - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:51:13
                                             actually black crime was at its lowest during segregation(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/21 08:31:46
                                                  Black culture hadn't gone off the rails yet. Fathers - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:32:43
                                        maybe mu7176grad can tell us (nm) - pickle MU - 5/21 08:31:02
                              Police need to walk a beat. They need to be in the - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:24:23
                                   Just like in The Wire. - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 08:25:16
                                        Didn't work out for Bunny Colvin (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/21 08:26:35
                                        It works. It doesn't work perfectly but it would improve - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:25:48
                                             What do you think the biggest issue is causing all the - sprintcar STL - 5/21 08:29:02
                                                  Broken families for a few generations now. No father - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:30:05
                                                       I don't disagree with that. How do you think police can - sprintcar STL - 5/21 08:35:31
                                                            They can't. But if the same cops are in the same - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:36:39
                                                                 and a respect for a cop is going to keep them from - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 08:39:44
                                                                      Do you think I am just making all of this up? Why don't - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:45:47
                                                                           Your solution to improve is not addressing how STL - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 08:49:24
                                                                                There is no solution. The community is too far gone. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:50:20
                                                                                     So just tape it off, ignore it and move to the county. - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 08:54:17
                                                                                          This is far from a STL problem. STL is only showing high - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:56:50
                                                                                               I realize "white flight" is happening everywhere - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 08:59:31
                                                                 It would be interesting to see stats on how long cops have - sprintcar STL - 5/21 08:39:03
                                             it would be a big improvement(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/21 08:27:17
                                                  I have no idea why anyone would want to be a STL - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:28:56
                                                       Yet, you wanna leach off the city by attending Cards and - Stewart STL - 5/21 09:10:28
                                                            The Cardinals are private entity. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:15:44
                                                                 Whooooooooooosh (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/21 09:21:34
                                                                 Point still stands. Put the ampitheatre and family arena - Stewart STL - 5/21 09:20:42
                                                                 Their stadium is in STL City. Who do you think - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 09:20:23
                                                                      Yes, and when I attend games, I am dumping money in to - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:22:33
                                                                           RE: Yes, and when I attend games, I am dumping money in to - scan MU - 5/21 09:29:17
                                                                                Of course (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:32:07
                                                                           You're dumping money into a private company - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 09:24:38
                                                                                Not only am I paying sales tax, the cardinals are paying - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:25:15
                                                                                     let alone all they money he pays for parking, eating - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/21 09:32:30
                                                                                          Hotels to see the game, etc. The Cardinals are a net - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:33:23
                                                                                     Those taxes don't cover all the expenses - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 09:30:11
                                                                                          Lol, oh man. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:31:42
                                                                                          You think the Cards are a net loss in revenue for the city?(nm) - sprintcar STL - 5/21 09:31:23
                                                                                               hahahaha no shyt. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 09:31:50
                                                                                          RE: Those taxes don't cover all the expenses - scan MU - 5/21 09:31:08
                                                       So how the f*ck are you going to get more police officers - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 08:32:36
                                                            If the city would allow officers to not live in the city - MrBlueSky MU - 5/21 08:34:47
                                                                 I didn't realize that was a rule. That is dumb as hell (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:36:52
                                                                      The idea behind it is exactly what you're looking for. - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 08:41:56
                                                                           Don't need to sleep there to spend 40 hours a week there (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:46:09
                                                                                He's right. Showing up for a few hours a day in uniform - sprintcar STL - 5/21 09:08:12
                                                            you are going to have to up the pay and bennies - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/21 08:34:03
                                                                 Obviously. Which raises the question I just ask of - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 08:38:36
                                                                      cities can always come up with funding if they really want - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/21 08:43:55
                                                                           Were prepared to drop 800 mil on a football stadium 3 years - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:48:15
                                                                                That's because people in the county are ok voting and - kmawv8 MU - 5/21 08:52:34
                                                            For one, don't build NFL stadiums for teams. That would be - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:33:36
                              more policing in those areas would be a start(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/21 08:23:14
                                   Opps (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/21 08:24:36
                    The problem with murders and crime in St Louis is definitely - Nebraska99 STL - 5/21 08:20:32
                         specifically the VC(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 5/21 08:22:04
     Good news - Hickeytime MU - 5/21 08:02:14
     We're number 1, we're number 1. - Toger STL - 5/21 07:33:02




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