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there is a difference between governance and government

Posted on: February 20, 2019 at 13:03:33 CT
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I'm talking about those institutions that set up rules to be followed by mankind and between various members of mankind
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If you have any unanswered questions from anyone - pickle MU - 2/20 12:22:08
     1) Is a HOA an acceptable form of self government? - Spanky KU - 2/20 13:08:04
          HoA's don't "govern" people; they offer a very limited - 90Tiger MU - 2/20 13:30:05
               You must not live in a HOA... The CC&R's at the - Spanky KU - 2/20 14:36:31
                    unlike the 100,000 pages of regulation - meatiger MU - 2/20 14:42:08
                         We are talking at the lowest level of government - Spanky KU - 2/20 14:45:21
                              fewer - pickle MU - 2/20 14:58:42
                                   There is no real distinction between the terms - Spanky KU - 2/20 15:18:04
                                        One is for things that can be counted - pickle MU - 2/20 15:29:12
                                             That is not the rule... try again - Spanky KU - 2/20 15:36:34
                              I belong to a HOA - meatiger MU - 2/20 14:58:33
               Spanky is frantically looking for a dictionary definition to - TigerMatt STL - 2/20 13:34:54
                    Flail away... a HOA is a defacto government - Spanky KU - 2/20 14:38:40
                         Incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 2/20 15:30:14
                    right, i picture him as Mr. Burns from the Simpsons fo - 90Tiger MU - 2/20 13:47:18
                         That's cool.. I picture you as Pee Wee Herman - Spanky KU - 2/20 14:52:32
          RE: 1) Is a HOA an acceptable form of self government? - pickle MU - 2/20 13:12:19
               A HOA has 'laws' ...collects 'taxes'.. and holds elections - Spanky KU - 2/20 13:22:32
                    so god's laws, the gvmt's laws and an HoA's laws are - 90Tiger MU - 2/20 14:19:55
                    "laws" - you do this all the time. you always assume - 90Tiger MU - 2/20 13:48:25
                         What would you call a HOA rule that every member is bound - Spanky KU - 2/20 14:27:29
                    For starters - pickle MU - 2/20 13:29:51
                         and... keep going.... - Spanky KU - 2/20 14:28:58
                              No, they are not - pickle MU - 2/20 14:51:05
                                   You are incorrect - Spanky KU - 2/20 15:20:14
                                        can you give an example? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 15:31:26
                                             Sure - Spanky KU - 2/20 16:09:22
                                                  That’s not an example of being bound by a rule - pickle MU - 2/20 16:31:29
                                                       Nope.. it is infringing on a rule passed by a majority of - Spanky KU - 2/20 17:38:25
                                                            Nope (nm) - pickle MU - 2/20 18:24:54
                                                                 Yep - Spanky KU - 2/20 18:30:07
                                                  who owns the guest parking spot? - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 16:21:15
                                                       EXACTLY! It acts EXACTLY like a government entity - Spanky KU - 2/20 17:04:49
                                                            Good lord you’re stupid (nm) - pickle MU - 2/20 17:22:23
                                                                 partly my fault - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 17:24:27
                                                                      The private business parking lot relies on a city statute to - Spanky KU - 2/20 17:43:01
                                                                           because govt regulates it - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 17:56:05
                                                            If you park on my driveway and I have your car towed - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 17:15:05
                                                                 That is not a guest spot.. can you have someone towed who - Spanky KU - 2/20 17:39:37
                                                                      how about a business? - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 17:45:36
                                                                           Grow up! A HOA is a privatized form of government - Spanky KU - 2/20 17:59:30
                                                                                An HOA is not government - pickle MU - 2/20 18:40:30
                                                                                the difference is the voluntary agreement (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 18:06:16
                                                                                     So back to my original post.... - Spanky KU - 2/20 18:22:23
                                                                                          the house comes with a contract - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 19:31:33
                                                                                               Sort of like your ancesters did when the voluntarilly came - Spanky KU - 2/20 19:40:15
                                                                                                    there's no contract - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 19:49:50
                                                                      because I don't own the street, it isn't my property - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 17:41:57
                                                                           The HOA members - Spanky KU - 2/20 17:54:02
                                                                                what makes it just like govt? - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 18:04:22
                                                                                     RE: what makes it just like govt? - Spanky KU - 2/20 18:30:29
                                                                                          thanks googlemeister - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 19:32:33
                                                                                          HOAs do not have taxing power - pickle MU - 2/20 18:44:16
                    A HOA is a voluntary association. A HOA cannot enforce the - TigerMatt STL - 2/20 13:26:37
                         As does a law enacted by Congress. They require - Spanky KU - 2/20 14:30:44
                              Gvmt does not exist by consent (nm) - pickle MU - 2/20 15:18:52
                                   You are incorrect - Spanky KU - 2/20 15:26:30
                         Well, that all depends on how strong the neighbood... - JayRoy KC - 2/20 13:41:45
     Can one be an anarchist and also be a patriot? (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/20 13:02:05
     why do you support a form of self government that has never - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/20 12:57:16
          I don’t think you’re asking the right question - pickle MU - 2/20 12:59:35
               there is a difference between governance and government - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/20 13:03:33
                    Then i have no idea what you’re talking about - pickle MU - 2/20 13:05:04
          Self government exists everyone on Earth - ummmm MU - 2/20 12:59:28
     Why does Nick allow a list of posters to lie - JG MU - 2/20 12:45:30
          Because he has faith people will act as adults - pickle MU - 2/20 12:55:44
               He is fairly delusional agreed - JG MU - 2/20 12:57:15
                    I didn’t say he is delusional. Be honest for a change (nm) - pickle MU - 2/20 13:03:33
                         RE: I didn’t say he is delusional. Be honest for a change (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/20 13:20:17
          Hilarious. The irony in you wanting that. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/20 12:49:25
          You benefit from this.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/20 12:47:58
               It does prove what a strong - JG MU - 2/20 12:49:20
     Do you really believe ownership is based off of - tcat KC - 2/20 12:44:39
          I didn’t say ownership is based off first come first served - pickle MU - 2/20 12:53:17
     what's your favorite hallmark christmas ornament? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 12:44:22
          RE: what's your favorite hallmark christmas ornament? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/20 12:50:08
               Nerd. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/20 12:50:58
                    RE: Nerd. (nm) - pickle MU - 2/20 12:54:24
                         Enablers. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/20 12:54:44
                              Haha (nm) - pickle MU - 2/20 12:56:42
          Mine is the Tiny Tinker - JG MU - 2/20 12:49:46
               Yes. That is what your wife calls your penis.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/20 12:52:33
                    That is false(nm) - JG MU - 2/20 12:53:20
                         I'd deny it too.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/20 12:53:49
                              I heard his wife named it after a superhero. The flash. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/20 13:28:58
                              RE: I'd deny it too.(nm) - JG MU - 2/20 12:54:29
     Do you think you're close-minded? (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/20 12:26:17
          LOL(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/20 13:52:26
          Nope (nm) - pickle MU - 2/20 12:29:22
     Why does single ply toilet paper even exist?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/20 12:24:52
          it’s cheap and provides a less costly alternative - pickle MU - 2/20 12:29:00
               Does it? Everyone I know doubles up on it.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/20 12:41:41
                    Why do you know what other people do with their toilet paper - mizzoumurfkc KC - 2/20 13:09:50
                    Whether it actually results in lower costs - pickle MU - 2/20 12:43:18
                    is this a common topic of conversation in your circle? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 12:43:14
                         If you are honest and admit a finger went up your arse, then - TigerMatt STL - 2/20 12:46:41
                              Hand raised(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/20 12:50:41
                                   put it down and wash it please (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/20 12:52:33
                                        Only after adding some artwork to the stall walls.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/20 12:56:39




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