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1) government doesn't confer rights 2) even if they

Posted on: November 27, 2018 at 14:10:44 CT
90Tiger STL
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did, this grants an enormously limited "right" and hence the need for single payer for legal services.

I'm with ummmmm.
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If you're the CEO of GM, how do you take... - Gyro MU - 11/27 13:31:52
     GM's current CEO has never filed for bankruptcy(nm) - tigerdb MU - 11/27 13:43:26
     I wouldn't take legal advice from you based on your - TigerMatt STL - 11/27 13:38:59
          No **** (nm) - pickle MU - 11/27 15:07:01
          I surely wouldn't confide in him anything I didn't want spew - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:50:18
          Ditto. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/27 13:44:38
          Trust me, you couldn't afford my legal advice(nm) - Gyro MU - 11/27 13:41:03
               That's why I suggested Single Payer lawyer services - ummmm MU - 11/27 13:45:53
                    A single payer lawyer system already exists. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:09:10
                         It does? Please explain how it works(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/27 14:20:18
                         then I propose the same system for healthcare. - dangertim MU - 11/27 14:13:18
                              correct. and apparently no legal services for anything other - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:14:25
                         for divorces, bankruptcies, civil suits, defense against - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:11:52
                              Criminal proceedings (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:44:52
                              No one knows because you're one of three idiots... - Gyro MU - 11/27 14:16:59
                                   it's BlueSky's claim - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:19:58
                         No, it doesn't. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:10:48
                    legal representation is a right, bro (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:50:38
                         Not in a civil matter; only criminal* - OntheMark MU - 11/27 17:49:42
                         Only in the last 50 years, though. - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 13:54:03
                              Where is healthcare listed as a right?(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/27 13:55:13
                                   In the preamble. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:02:06
                                        if you use the preamble, everything is a right, which is - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:06:23
                                        Wrong as usual(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/27 14:03:27
                                             If you prefer - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:04:59
                                                  What?? - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:10:03
                                                       In other words - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:12:02
                                                            The right to bumpstocks and high capacity magazines?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/27 14:17:24
                                                                 Are those arms? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:43:19
                                                                      Well, they are armaments, yes. - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:52:22
                                                                           Look - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:56:46
                                                                                Your beliefs are great and all - ummmm MU - 11/27 15:00:03
                                                                                     The plain and deliberately vague meaning of the constitution - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 15:00:48
                                                                                          It's not deliberately vague. To the contrary, it enumerates - ummmm MU - 11/27 15:02:16
                                                                                               It is deliberately vague. You're being extremely short - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 15:04:00
                                                                                                    It is not deliberately vague. They argued over the meanings - pickle MU - 11/27 16:25:51
                                                                                                    You're making that up. There is no factual or historical - ummmm MU - 11/27 15:09:00
                                                                                                         And they debated over the meanings! (nm) - pickle MU - 11/27 16:26:21
                                                                                Look, you like to argue both sides depending on your - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:58:00
                                                                                     I don't. I've been consistent. The constitution - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:59:46
                                                                                          Living Constitution is an oxymoron. - ummmm MU - 11/27 15:01:19
                                                                                               the 9th amendment is the basis for a variety - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 15:03:01
                                                                                                    No, it's not. - ummmm MU - 11/27 15:09:57
                                                                 well done. contortion from MBS commencing (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:21:02
                                                                      He leaves a topic completely when it's clear he has - TheWildcat STL - 11/27 14:24:43
                                                                           Lol, you dreaming up stupid things you want to - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:45:38
                                                                 YES!(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/27 14:18:21
                                                                 Lol. Incisive. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:17:49
                                                            The right to an adequate supply of beer. I'm on that (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:15:03
                                                            The right to private jets. - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:14:44
                                                                 I wish that one were real. You can't take a dump - TheWildcat STL - 11/27 14:15:19
                                                                      You must be unaware of the right to dump - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:17:26
                                                            The right to big screens. - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:14:10
                                                            Is home ownership then also a right? I hate to think - TheWildcat STL - 11/27 14:13:44
                                                            The right to pizza. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:13:28
                                                            lmfao, so everything anyone can dream up is a right? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:12:38
                                                                 Lol, no - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:43:46
                                                                      something being legal =/= something being a right (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:58:53
                                                                 This is actually sad. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 11/27 14:14:34
                                                                      It's ends justify means nonsense. - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:15:51
                                                                      it's actually tragic unless his entire posting history is a - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:15:31
                              neither is a right, nor is education. you numskulls won't - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:54:51
                                   Legal representation isn't a right? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 13:55:52
                                        no, it isn't a right, and please recall the context of this - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:59:08
                                             The right to counsel. - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:03:13
                                                  can you please remind yourself there are posts prior - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:07:57
                                        No. It is not a right. - ummmm MU - 11/27 13:57:22
                                             Backpedalling(nm) - Gyro MU - 11/27 14:02:52
                                             WTF are you talking about? - Gyro MU - 11/27 14:02:23
                                                  lol, lawyers (like you) are too expensive for everyone to ac - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:08:42
                                                       Ha, how illogical have your arguments become... - Gyro MU - 11/27 14:18:17
                                                            and yet you can't respond! you lawyerin' me? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:20:30
                                                  I'm talking about how people cannot access lawyer - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:05:07
                                             The right to counsel. - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:01:16
                                                  No, it is not a right (nm) - pickle MU - 11/27 15:07:40
                                                  No. It is not a right. - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:03:38
                                                       Lol, wow. - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:05:49
                                                            I'm going to start looking for rights in Ben Franklin's - dangertim MU - 11/27 14:15:13
                                                            It wasn't never meant to. It basically said f*ck off England - TheWildcat STL - 11/27 14:11:18
                                                                 Where does Umm's line of right to life, liberty, and - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:44:31
                                                                      Nature. These are the natural rights which are inherent - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:49:54
                                                            the Declaration isn't a legal document defining the - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:09:37
                                                            his position is consistent (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:09:10
                                                            The Declaration of Independence has no legal standing - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:08:59
                                                       6A smarty(nm) - Gyro MU - 11/27 14:05:13
                                                            1) government doesn't confer rights 2) even if they - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 14:10:44
                                                            Let's take a look: - ummmm MU - 11/27 14:06:43
                                                                 And it certainly doesn't cover the gross inequities of - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 11/27 14:17:29
                                                                      So, it would likely be better for indigent offenders - MrBlueSky MU - 11/27 14:58:44
                                                                           Of course not. That one has access to greater representation - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 11/27 15:13:36
                    lol oops(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/27 13:49:23
                    lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:46:10
               You're awesome (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/27 13:44:52
                    Finally you've said something true...congrats(nm) - Gyro MU - 11/27 13:46:10
               Then why are your clients a bunch of old pant****ters?(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/27 13:42:41
               Sure... lol. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/27 13:42:22
               Do you charge more than Avenatti ? LOL - Uncle Fester USMC - 11/27 13:42:09
     Well.. she is an incompetent CEO - Spanky KU - 11/27 13:38:35
     When did Donald Trump file for bankruptcy? (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 11/27 13:38:34




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