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He was an average X's & O's coach. His D2 teams were the

Posted on: October 14, 2018 at 09:38:45 CT
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like Kentucky at that level. They just had more talent. I don't see how anyone who watched us play for 3 years under him could think he was anything other than average as an X's & O's coach. He was a terrible recruiter and an average coach. That's why we finished last every year. If he was an above average coach then we would have won more than 8 SEC games in 54 total games by out-scheming other coaches.

And the idea that because he wasn't a great X's & O's coach somehow means Norm wasn't is dumb. Just because Norm taught him doesn't mean he should be anywhere near as good at as Norm.
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Come next spring - gaber c. MU - 10/12 14:11:42
     Wasn't Howland being pushed for the Missouri job?(nm) - alstl MU - 10/13 11:53:13
          RE: Wasn't Howland being pushed for the Missouri job?(nm) - Ragarm MU - 10/14 09:25:04
               Hiring Howland with the team already under investigation - alstl MU - 10/14 13:26:12
                    Once again I ask, has Howland ever had any NCAA trouble? - tgr MU - 10/14 16:28:31
                         Has Self ever had any NCAA trouble? There was a lot of - alstl MU - 10/14 21:44:53
               He was interested in the job but our AD was dead set on - StaleyTiger MU - 10/14 09:30:48
          He was but I don't believe he has had anything other - tgr MU - 10/13 14:00:37
               Alden didn't tell Kim about the ongoing NCAA investigation - alstl MU - 10/14 21:38:18
               Howland hasn’t done much at Mississippi State - WildCard MU - 10/13 16:48:04
                    I'm not comparing him to Cuonzo. I'd rather have Cuonzo now - tgr MU - 10/14 07:22:24
                         RE: I'm not comparing him to Cuonzo. I'd rather have Cuonzo now - Ragarm MU - 10/14 09:31:34
                              also his coaching was terrible. One of the top 25 reasons - FIJItiger MU - 10/15 08:09:13
                              He was an average X's & O's coach. His D2 teams were the - StaleyTiger MU - 10/14 09:38:45
                    I agree but that wasn't the choice at the time, Howland - tigersfan MU - 10/13 18:14:27
                         RE: I agree but that wasn't the choice at the time, Howland - Ragarm MU - 10/14 09:32:26
               George Dohrmann, UCLA, Sports Illustrated, 03-05-2012 - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 10/13 14:16:12
                    No NCAA rules broken in that article. - tgr MU - 10/13 14:54:37
                         WADR: Mere existence of story disqualified Howland - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 10/13 15:14:55
                              You're a moron. (nm) - myself MU - 10/13 20:04:18
     100% agree - nothing to see here. - Carlos Rossi KC - 10/12 16:18:02
     Howland is clean and doesn't belong in that list. (nm) - zounami MU - 10/12 16:07:30
          You are missing the point - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 10/13 14:22:38
          I'm sure you slurped up the mess he made real good (nm) - Cosmo MU - 10/13 09:41:46
          is being clean why he loses to umkc?(nm) - Penske material MU - 10/12 20:32:06
     Agree, that is the most likely scenario - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 14:34:51
          We can only blame ourselves for those idiotic self-inflicted - zounami MU - 10/12 16:10:02
               I blame Mack Rhoades/Kim Anderson exclusively (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 16:22:13
                    RE: I blame Mack Rhoades/Kim Anderson exclusively (nm) - gaber c. MU - 10/12 20:28:38
                         RE: I blame Mack Rhoades/Kim Anderson exclusively (nm) - Big Ray 2 USA - 10/13 17:25:31
                              RE: I blame Mack Rhoades/Kim Anderson exclusively (nm) - gaber c. MU - 10/14 03:29:20
                              No sour grapes. Your too stupid to see the blatant cheating - ROLLATIGER MU - 10/13 22:29:01
                    It's incredible the amount of damage they did to our - zounami MU - 10/12 16:27:44
                         MU would have been better off simply - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 16:36:28
                              That sounds hyperbolic, but sadly it's 100% true. (nm) - zounami MU - 10/12 17:06:11
                                   It netted 4 more overall wins for the program - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 17:26:15
                                        4 wins, 68 losses — our program's win % took a massive hit (nm) - zounami MU - 10/12 17:40:02




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