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Those guys also had pretty crappy coaching the first 2

Posted on: March 25, 2018 at 16:43:24 CT
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years at MU.

So, I think it's fair to KP and JG and CVL and RN to see how they develop into dependable players by the end of next year.
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Tj gets it - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 3/25 16:04:43
     Killshot(nm) - Barnburner KC - 3/25 16:07:29
          Good job(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:08:34
     Tj you are now aligned with someone being as - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 16:06:48
          He is twisting TJ’s post to support his agenda - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:08:15
               How is he "twisting" it? He merely posted a link to it.... - zounami MU - 3/25 16:12:02
                    At no time have I said this season was a failure.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:13:33
               he watches us play. He knows that wasn't the case(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 16:09:04
                    I do. That's why I know the KA players - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:10:42
                         They weren't a "core"; they were fringe pieces that CM - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:17:20
                              RE: They weren't a "core"; they were fringe pieces that CM - Hobie1 MU - 3/25 16:22:44
                              should be called role players instead(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:19:41
                                   I'd agree with that(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:29:32
                                   Agreed that "role" is a better terminology. - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:21:19
                                        i was going to say rubble left from a nuclear weapon - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:23:39
                                             agreed....I think the issue here is that the TJ doesn't know - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:26:20
                                                  I know what core is. I just didn't think you and Fiji would - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:30:10
                                                       Kim certainly left the program in worse shape than what he - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:34:46
                                                            100% agree with that(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:40:14
                                                                 From my perspective, Barnett is the only "above average" - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:41:37
                                                                      Those guys also had pretty crappy coaching the first 2 - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:43:24
                                                       This is ragnar’s fault. He is probably laughing his ass off - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:32:34
                                                            And, I tried to say I didn't agree with him. LOL(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:43:46
                                                  To be fair he got sucked into this - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:29:25
                              Semantics. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:19:36
                                   You don't know what "core" is. - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:23:36
                                        Did you mean Harris?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:24:53
                                             Yeah, my bad(nm) - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:26:46
                                        LOL. Amazing how much this matters to you.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:24:45
                         Seems pretty purposefully intellectually dishonest. I don't - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 16:11:58
                              i must be reading his post wrong - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:14:45
                                   If that's the way that you read it, fine...but I wouldn't - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:19:31
                                        I'm not calling the losses a foundation. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:23:10
                                             What was TP? - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:33:10
                                                  You may disagree with the 247 consensus ratings but - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:41:20
                                                       and that's really not very good. They give ***s to just - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:46:15
                                                            So, disagree with their rankings. I'm just reporting it(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:47:30
                                                                 I don't disagree with their rankings - I'm saying that - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:50:56
                                                                      He did...according to the consensus rankings(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:54:03
                                                                           LOL, no - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:56:01
                                                                                Oh, so 110 and not 100. Huge difference* - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 17:02:36
                                                                                     And Barnett was a good bb player. But when there are 400+ - tigerdb MU - 3/25 17:07:22
                                   There was no core, and it certainly wasn't worth 8 wins(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 16:17:15
                                        Amazing how JP, JT, KR alone won 20 games(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:22:16
                                             In order to respond to this you have to criticize the - MU-TULSA MU - 3/25 16:28:31
                                             They didn't. We also had a real staff, that improved upon - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 16:27:05
                                                  Well, with the "garbage" players left for CM - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:27:57
                                   Perhaps Fiji isn't willing to give KA credit in any way - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:15:40
                                        He was much better at - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 16:18:23
                                             That's not intellectually honest(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:20:25
                                                  false. Nobody could have anticipated that level - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 16:22:42
                                                       You underestimate your echo chamber(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:23:28
                                        KA did a poor job - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:18:22
                                             Of course. But, his returning players weren't poor(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:20:13
                                                  No point guard was a big deal - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:22:17
                                                       I wish KP was 6'9"...guy plays with a lot of heart. - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:29:44
                                                       Geist is a solid backup PG. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:24:17
                                                            He's a solid backup guard; he should be able to come in and - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:36:38
                                                            no. Come on man(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 16:28:01
                                                                 Didn't need him anyway. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:28:55
                                                                      This has become too intellectually dishonest to be - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 16:30:22
                                                                           "become?" Entire thread is about melodramatic - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:31:51
                                                            backup yes not a lead guard(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:26:50
                                                                 Agree(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:28:07
                                                  uh, at best that is what they were(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/25 16:21:41
                                                       Nope. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:23:46
                              LOL. YOU are accusing someone of being intellectually - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:13:10
          Congrats on zounami agreeing with you.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:08:13
               That's because Fiji and I are MU grads & fans, whereas you - zounami MU - 3/25 16:22:18
                    False, sue. Go back to Allen Fieldhouse(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:25:06
          yep, no surprise there (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 16:07:24
     Not sure I want that compliment. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:05:19
          That's not very good take - rags endorsement proves that - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:16:13
               Amazing JP, JT, KR won 20 wins alone(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:25:41
                    THEY were the core, the foundation for a 20 win season. - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:40:21
                         I really don't get why that term bothers you so much. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:42:10
                              It doesn't bother me - it appears that you just misspoke - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:54:06
                                   If it helps you feel better... - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:57:13
               Very good points. I like the “core” guys though - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:17:38
          RE: Not sure I want that compliment. - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:07:08
               I missed what he said. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:07:56
                    RE: I missed what he said. (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:09:17
                         Compared to last year it was a success. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:11:41
                              you would agree one of those 3 did not live up to - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:16:35
                                   Absolutely. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:27:11
                                        RE: Absolutely. - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:34:31




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