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Semantics.

Posted on: March 25, 2018 at 16:19:36 CT

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M.O.B. Votes:

If CM didn't have:

1 four star and 5 three star players and 3 unrated players;
50.4 PPG
151/200 MPG
1 Senior, 4 Juniors, 2 Sophomores (not counting Walkons)

...he'd not have wo 20 games this year. Core, "fringe pieces"...whatever.

Please explain why this message is being reported.

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MESSAGE THREAD

Tj gets it - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 3/25 16:04:43

Killshot(nm) - Barnburner KC - 3/25 16:07:29

Good job(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:08:34

Tj you are now aligned with someone being as - FIJItiger MU

- 3/25 16:06:48

He is twisting TJ’s post to support his agenda - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:08:15

How is he "twisting" it? He merely posted a link to it.... - zounami MU - 3/25 16:12:02

At no time have I said this season was a failure.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:13:33

he watches us play. He knows that wasn't the case(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/25 16:09:04

I do. That's why I know the KA players - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:10:42

They weren't a "core"; they were fringe pieces that CM - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:17:20

RE: They weren't a "core"; they were fringe pieces that CM - Hobie1 MU - 3/25 16:22:44

should be called role players instead(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:19:41

I'd agree with that(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:29:32

Agreed that "role" is a better terminology. - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:21:19

i was going to say rubble left from a nuclear weapon - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:23:39

agreed....I think the issue here is that the TJ doesn't know - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:26:20

I know what core is. I just didn't think you and Fiji would - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:30:10

Kim certainly left the program in worse shape than what he - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:34:46

100% agree with that(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:40:14

From my perspective, Barnett is the only "above average" - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:41:37

Those guys also had pretty crappy coaching the first 2 - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:43:24

This is ragnar’s fault. He is probably laughing his ass off - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:32:34

And, I tried to say I didn't agree with him. LOL(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:43:46

To be fair he got sucked into this - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:29:25

Semantics. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:19:36

You don't know what "core" is. - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:23:36

Did you mean Harris?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:24:53

Yeah, my bad(nm) - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:26:46

LOL. Amazing how much this matters to you.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:24:45

Seems pretty purposefully intellectually dishonest. I don't - FIJItiger MU

- 3/25 16:11:58

i must be reading his post wrong - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:14:45

If that's the way that you read it, fine...but I wouldn't - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:19:31

I'm not calling the losses a foundation. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:23:10

What was TP? - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:33:10

You may disagree with the 247 consensus ratings but - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:41:20

and that's really not very good. They give ***s to just - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:46:15

So, disagree with their rankings. I'm just reporting it(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:47:30

I don't disagree with their rankings - I'm saying that - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:50:56

He did...according to the consensus rankings(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:54:03

LOL, no - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:56:01

Oh, so 110 and not 100. Huge difference* - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 17:02:36

And Barnett was a good bb player. But when there are 400+ - tigerdb MU - 3/25 17:07:22

There was no core, and it certainly wasn't worth 8 wins(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/25 16:17:15

Amazing how JP, JT, KR alone won 20 games(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:22:16

In order to respond to this you have to criticize the - MU-TULSA MU - 3/25 16:28:31

They didn't. We also had a real staff, that improved upon - FIJItiger MU

- 3/25 16:27:05

Well, with the "garbage" players left for CM - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:27:57

Perhaps Fiji isn't willing to give KA credit in any way - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:15:40

He was much better at - FIJItiger MU

- 3/25 16:18:23

That's not intellectually honest(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:20:25

false. Nobody could have anticipated that level - FIJItiger MU

- 3/25 16:22:42

You underestimate your echo chamber(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:23:28

KA did a poor job - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:18:22

Of course. But, his returning players weren't poor(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:20:13

No point guard was a big deal - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:22:17

I wish KP was 6'9"...guy plays with a lot of heart. - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:29:44

Geist is a solid backup PG. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:24:17

He's a solid backup guard; he should be able to come in and - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:36:38

no. Come on man(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/25 16:28:01

Didn't need him anyway. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:28:55

This has become too intellectually dishonest to be - FIJItiger MU

- 3/25 16:30:22

"become?" Entire thread is about melodramatic - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:31:51

backup yes not a lead guard(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:26:50

Agree(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:28:07

uh, at best that is what they were(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 3/25 16:21:41

Nope. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:23:46

LOL. YOU are accusing someone of being intellectually - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:13:10

Congrats on zounami agreeing with you.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:08:13

That's because Fiji and I are MU grads & fans, whereas you - zounami MU - 3/25 16:22:18

False, sue. Go back to Allen Fieldhouse(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:25:06

yep, no surprise there (nm) - zounami MU - 3/25 16:07:24

Not sure I want that compliment. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:05:19

That's not very good take - rags endorsement proves that - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:16:13

Amazing JP, JT, KR won 20 wins alone(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:25:41

THEY were the core, the foundation for a 20 win season. - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:40:21

I really don't get why that term bothers you so much. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:42:10

It doesn't bother me - it appears that you just misspoke - tigerdb MU - 3/25 16:54:06

If it helps you feel better... - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:57:13

Very good points. I like the “core” guys though - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:17:38

RE: Not sure I want that compliment. - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:07:08

I missed what he said. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:07:56

RE: I missed what he said. (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:09:17

Compared to last year it was a success. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:11:41

you would agree one of those 3 did not live up to - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:16:35

Absolutely. - tjwheeler UI - 3/25 16:27:11

RE: Absolutely. - DevilsAdvocate MU - 3/25 16:34:31