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First of all, I never stated reasons as to why the rivalry

Posted on: February 11, 2018 at 21:19:16 CT

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means more to Illinois fans/players... it just does, and it always has.

Second, I disagree that MU cared more about the Border War rivalry than KU, especially considering the fact that MU abandoned that rivalry by leaving the Big 12.

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Illinois beat by 22 on their home court by Penn St. - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/11 20:16:00

Fwiw, PSU is now 18-9(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 2/11 21:16:16

Their overall & conference records are both mediocre if you - zounami MU - 2/11 21:21:31

Yes, hence the “fwiw.”(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 2/11 21:40:39

PSU has a BPI higher than MU. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/11 21:31:18

Is that the only metric where they are better than us? - tgr MU

- 2/12 08:04:51

Keep using it? I used it yesterday for the first time. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 10:23:57

By 6 points for now. Meanwhile PSU’s SoS is 75th, while - STL1DFW STL - 2/11 21:45:37

Except...Toughest Remaining Schedules: PSU #2; MU #49 - tjwheeler UI - 2/11 22:34:24

Don’t forget the Conference Tournaments. PSU better - STL1DFW STL - 2/12 01:30:13

Just saying there isn't a seismic difference between MU/PSU. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 07:02:11

38 to 41 in Kenpom though - KC rules MU - 2/11 22:00:51

Sos sure is(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 2/11 22:27:46

That was a tough loss but in fairness IU really played - Tiger Tim MU - 2/11 20:38:56

Hurts to admit, but they have our #. However 2 positives: - tiger4real MU - 2/11 20:43:27

The game means more to Illinois than it does to Mizzou... - zounami MU - 2/11 20:54:07

it's more important because they win all the time - Jeff85 MU - 2/12 08:21:45

RE: The game means more to Illinois than it does to Mizzou... - jrizzle MU - 2/11 21:33:36

Missouri Tigers - every game is our super bowl - tiger4real MU - 2/11 21:20:13

You keep saying this, but that doesn't make it true - Cosmo MU

- 2/11 20:58:50

He's right this time. It's very evident that UI cares more - alwaysright MU - 2/11 21:37:59

People like to get drunk and have fun. - tjwheeler UI - 2/11 21:39:35

Then you haven't followed the series like I have... - zounami MU - 2/11 21:03:32

The only thing that sucks more than Illinois BB this year - tjwheeler UI - 2/11 21:32:20

lol ummmmmm - Cosmo MU

- 2/11 21:08:41

LOL - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/11 21:14:09

Well technically I think he's right, I haven't followed it - Cosmo MU

- 2/11 21:32:10

so would you say the kU game was our Super Bowl?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/11 21:05:53

No... explain your logic. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/11 21:06:48

the reasons you state the BR game is their Super Bowl - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/11 21:12:42

First of all, I never stated reasons as to why the rivalry - zounami MU - 2/11 21:19:16

I never stated you stated that - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/11 21:22:53

zounami has tremendous respect for Illinois as a program - MakeShift MU - 2/11 20:35:49

And we lost to them.... sad(nm) - blackngold MU - 2/11 20:20:36

and North Carolina lost to Wofford... It happens.... - zounami MU - 2/11 20:26:33

i Agree def their super bowl(nm) - blackngold MU - 2/11 20:36:34

their program no longer has NCAA tournament aspirations... - zounami MU - 2/11 20:52:31

lol (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 2/11 21:56:55

Will help HCCM recruit the fertile plains of Lincoln Land - Macgrantt MU - 2/11 20:19:46

RE: Will help HCCM recruit the fertile plains of Lincoln Land - Third_Eye STL - 2/11 20:36:11

Underwood was a bad hire. I think UI fans are starting to - zounami MU - 2/11 20:17:33

that doesn't surprise me you feel that way - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/11 20:19:40

He was left with a better roster than Cuonzo was. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/11 20:23:13

You again don't know what you're talking about. - tjwheeler UI - 2/11 21:28:55

nope(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/11 20:26:04

it's absolutely true, but we'll have to agree to disagree (nm) - zounami MU - 2/11 20:27:42

it's debatable, maybe TJ Wheeler can weigh in on it - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/11 20:30:01

then he's making excuses for Underwood. Cuonzo inherited - zounami MU - 2/11 20:49:39

I agree completely regarding the job Cuonzo has done - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/11 20:54:55

I'm sure he'll be objective, as always. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/11 20:56:27

Says the KU fan who hides as a MU fan(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/11 21:29:38

so him slamming their lack of talent is him being a homer?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/11 20:57:44

Absolutely. He's downplaying their talent as an excuse for - zounami MU - 2/11 21:00:18

No, I use actual facts and do not excuse poor coaching. - tjwheeler UI - 2/11 21:30:54

HE'S NO BEN GOLL DURN HOWLAND OR MATT DADGUM RHULE!!!11!!1 - Mothball MU - 2/11 20:19:18

Brad Underwood was a bad hire, but Matt Rhule deserves - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/11 20:20:06