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Shows the need to modify police procedures

Posted on: December 10, 2017 at 16:46:25 CT
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The whole bit of yelling commands at a suspect over and over when the suspect is clearly submissive, ordering them to crawl, shooting based on a hand motion is highly questionable. Several experts apparently testified at trial that the officers actions were consistent with accepted procedures. Well, maybe the experts are biased because they make their living working for police departments and identify far more with police officers than they identify with the general public.

As I saw that, I said to myself, ok maybe a normal person could get through that with out getting shot, but what about the mentally ill. Many mentally ill people have trouble understanding directions when they are not under extreme pressure. Put them under a barrage of shouted orders while pointing a gun at them, and the predictable result is going to be shooting about 1/3 of them if not more.


So it seems like the obvious question is why were those procedures implemented.



The guy had not committed any crime whatsoever and was unarmed. It seems like the procedures need to be modified to be dependent, to a degree, based on what the officer actually knows about the suspect. If the suspect is known to be a habitual violent criminal who is facing serious jail time then more aggressive defensive measures should be taken. If the officer doesn't know anything about the suspect, then he should at least consider the possibility that the suspect has no reason to shoot and just has trouble handling pressure, or is mentally ill or intoxicated and should be treated less aggressively.

Edited by Knucklehead at 16:52:11 on 12/10/17
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     It is outrageous. - DC Jayhawk KU - 12/10 19:46:52
          So.....where was the outrage and/or media coverage about - MIZ45 MU - 12/10 20:43:57
     Shows the need to modify police procedures - Knucklehead MU - 12/10 16:46:25
          Problems are it was a hotel. Transient population where the - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/10 17:17:56
          I’m not saying you’re wrong, but why is there so much - MIZ45 MU - 12/10 16:55:04
     This isn't a political issue at all. Cop should die (nm) - Hbombtiger STL - 12/10 15:51:40
          RE: This isn't a political issue at all. Cop should die (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/10 19:34:38
     why would you make this tragedy a political issue - Macgrantt MU - 12/10 15:27:13
          Yeah, can’t say I’ve ever seen an officer involved shooting - MIZ45 MU - 12/10 16:25:09
          RE: why would you make this tragedy a political issue - mizzoumurfkc MU - 12/10 15:31:38
          he didn't, he simply asked a question of those that do - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/10 15:29:20
     Where is yours? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/10 14:37:30
          Answer the question, please. (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 12/10 16:25:55
     The dude shouldn’t have reached for his waistband - Spanky KU - 12/10 14:12:30
          he was drunk - Macgrantt MU - 12/10 15:25:54
               “police command” (nm) - pickle MU - 12/10 15:32:04
                    yes, a police command, is it you are that naive - Macgrantt MU - 12/10 15:40:29
                         Lol naive? - pickle MU - 12/10 15:57:13
                              so pickle, tell me really what an anarchist society does for - Macgrantt MU - 12/10 15:59:15
                                   It doesn't do anything - pickle MU - 12/10 16:10:14
                                        whether it's municipal or private, still is law enforcement - Macgrantt MU - 12/10 16:20:48
                                             monopoly, law enforcement and courts being in collusion, - 90Tiger MU - 12/10 18:56:40
                                             Coercion versus voluntary relationships - pickle MU - 12/10 16:33:47
                                                  So you might have a voluntary relationship with the police - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/10 17:25:09
                                                  so what you're proposing is a very idealistic, optimistic, - Macgrantt MU - 12/10 16:57:04
                                                       No, that's not right. That's a straw man - pickle MU - 12/10 17:16:53
          It's weird, though. You're anti-death penalty but seem to - Evenflow MU - 12/10 14:24:01
               Most instances of "death penalty by cop" as you call it are - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/10 17:29:28
               horrid logic(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/10 14:29:34
                    I'll bet you do think it is, no doubt. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 12/10 14:33:37
                         Of course I do because it is - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/10 14:36:59
                              However your mind wants to scurry to get there, the bottom - Evenflow MU - 12/10 14:37:35
                                   the state, the state, the state ad nauseam - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/10 14:41:54
                                        Now this is an example of illogic (nm) - pickle MU - 12/10 14:46:11
                                        Well, I like it infinitely better than talking about - Evenflow MU - 12/10 14:43:50
          Agreed - MIZ45 MU - 12/10 14:14:21
               Then have some of my outrage. The very minimum - GA Tiger MU - 12/10 14:33:18
                    I’m not saying there shouldn’t be outrage - MIZ45 MU - 12/10 16:40:01
     Don't feel the need for outrage over every last thing(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/10 13:39:49
          I’m going to guess - MIZ45 MU - 12/10 14:08:37
               I didn't hear about it at all - raskolnikov MU - 12/10 20:51:29
                    You see - MIZ45 MU - 12/11 11:55:01
          You're for the killing of black babies. 👶🏾 - Emoji Man MSU - 12/10 13:41:46
               Not for killing any babies son(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/10 20:52:49
               That is evident by his unwavering support of abortion - Spanky KU - 12/10 14:20:57
                    No - raskolnikov MU - 12/10 20:52:24




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