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Posted on: December 9, 2017 at 18:05:36 CT
Iam4Mizzou MU
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And this is just my outsider suspicions. I have no industry understanding.

1. We have become a very unhealthy society. Our collective health is breaking the system.

2. People are getting rich off of healthcare. In particular, medical device companies, insurance agents, and pharmas.

3. We have no market forces to drive prices down. See lasik which is not covered by most plans. Elective medical procedures are affordable.

4. Our food industry gets a lot of blame for our society becoming unhealthy. We have a heavy corn-based diet. Obesity is an epidemic.

First order of business is to create premium price controls. I know this sounds horribly socialistic, but we all need healthcare and because out of control pricing has been thrown on us, we don't really have a choice. My family is a year or two away from being uninsured and we are considered high income earners.

Let the healthcare industry figure out how to make money off of the the roughly two trillion dollars it now takes in. I know it might mean chicken instead of steak at the Christmas party, but I bet they can do it.

Bottom line is they charge so much because they can. There are no forces holding costs in check. That's where to start.
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Our GOP president and congress cannot fix healthcare - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 17:47:05
     Wish the Dems would have never broke it in the first place. - MKrip MU - 12/10 10:24:18
     check your premise (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/9 21:56:42
     Did you think having 18 children would be inexpensive?(nm) - TheShoe STL - 12/9 20:46:42
     This plan belongs to YOUR party. Yes the GOP refused to - DHighlander NWMSU - 12/9 19:48:09
          lol - pickle MU - 12/9 20:32:54
     never heard you complain about the a**hole who started the - tigerNkc MU - 12/9 18:43:24
          That’s your problem. Those posts exist on this page - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 19:03:20
               gosh, you sure are prescient (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/9 21:57:28
                    ty :)(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 22:48:56
                         but hardly special in this regard (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/10 09:53:44
     Pro tip: Quit having a wife and kids. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 12/9 18:41:17
     Of course not. I said that long ago. It is IMPOSSIBLE to - GA Tiger MU - 12/9 18:37:57
     It can't be fixed - pickle MU - 12/9 18:13:01
          incorrect - SatoriTiger JC - 12/9 18:33:59
               uh - 90Tiger MU - 12/9 21:57:59
     lol Jesus 30k on health premiums - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/9 18:04:30
     so how do you fix it? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 12/9 17:58:14
          Repeal it - Spanky KU - 12/9 21:52:28
          Its not fixable. As long as gov't is involved. Fact.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/9 18:38:35
          You have to get government out of the business - tman KC - 12/9 18:09:39
               How does a regulation "encourage"? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/9 18:29:51
                    Wrong board(nm) - tman KC - 12/9 18:39:52
                         How does a regulation "encourage"? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/9 18:58:55
                              Wrong board. (nm) - tman KC - 12/9 19:07:22
                                   How does a regulation "encourage"? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/9 19:11:07
                                        Wrong board(nm) - tman KC - 12/9 19:16:40
                                             How does regulation "encourage"? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/9 20:32:33
                                                  Wrong board(nm) - tman KC - 12/9 20:34:23
                                                       How does regulation "encourage"? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/9 20:36:13
                                                            Wrong board(nm) - tman KC - 12/9 20:44:55
                                                                 How does regulation "encourage"? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/9 20:48:32
                                                                      Wrong board(nm) - tman KC - 12/9 20:57:34
                                                                           How does regulation "encourage"? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/9 21:22:05
                                                                                Wrong board(nm) - tman KC - 12/9 23:00:51
                                                                                     How does regulation "encourage"? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/10 08:54:12
               tort reform has resulted in exactly no premium savings - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 18:11:56
                    It drives cost in the industry. As an attorney and a wife - tman KC - 12/9 18:25:44
                         premiums kept going up at the same rate in Missouri - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 18:29:14
                              I don't believe that even slightly. Gimme some proof.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/9 19:43:20
                              Link it. I would generally like to research it(nm) - tman KC - 12/9 18:41:06
          Yes - redngray MU - 12/9 18:08:19
               indeed - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 18:09:34
          here's what I see - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 18:05:36
               there's a system - that's the only problem we have (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/9 21:59:33
               You preach choice. Correctly, btw, but don’t mention - STL1DFW STL - 12/9 18:16:27
                    normally I would say competition is the answer - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 18:18:10
                         No, not competition at that level. At the premium level. - STL1DFW STL - 12/9 18:30:47
                              The get catastrophic coverage, and should kick in on routine - tman KC - 12/9 18:52:55
                         You can do that, but no one does now. Why? Insurance - tman KC - 12/9 18:28:19
                              because you're not paying for it - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 18:30:16
                                   Exactly. Hence, let the market go to work and get - tman KC - 12/9 18:51:36
     Getting rid of the mandate was a Yuge step in correcting - STL1DFW STL - 12/9 17:54:22
          I'll respond to you because I am generous in nature - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 17:57:29
               You’re consistently wrong, so I would go with that, but damn - STL1DFW STL - 12/9 17:58:54
     Neither could the previous 200 year plus regimes(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/9 17:51:51
          One, though, derailed it completely recently.(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 12/9 17:56:40
          we're heading off a cliff over premiums - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 17:53:30
               going back to the great society and war on poverty - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/9 17:56:53
               Have Obama’s address? You can send him a Thank You - STL1DFW STL - 12/9 17:55:18
     He can't even fix his dentures, in order to speak clearly... - tigerdb MU - 12/9 17:51:00
     How much was it 9 years ago? Or 20?(nm) - tman KC - 12/9 17:50:30
          WHAT are you talking about?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/9 17:52:04
               How much were your costs 9 years ago - tman KC - 12/9 17:56:21
          I used to premium hop - Iam4Mizzou MU - 12/9 17:51:48
     Medicare for all - raskolnikov MU - 12/9 17:49:15
          You're an idiot (nm) - pickle MU - 12/9 18:13:33
          Are you going to ration. That system is going broke - tman KC - 12/9 17:51:11
               Wow. Cling away wow - raskolnikov MU - 12/9 17:53:38
                    UK NHS is doing so well. - TigerMatt STL - 12/9 18:40:35
                    How is the knee today comrade - tman KC - 12/9 17:58:32




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